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What is the best hard drive?

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Re: What is the best hard drive?

#61

Let me start off by saying I am a Backblaze customer and I LOVE these posts and use them as my bible for buying drives for my NAS/Media Server. With that said this is going to sound a little nitpicky but why isn't the publication date anywhere on this article? I've noticed a growing number of blogs not putting the publish date anywhere on the blog page which makes it really hard to know if what they say is still vali…

I'm feeling foolish for not reading it and purchasing four Seagate Barracuda 7200.14s.

I had no failures so far but with a 50% failure rate it's bound to happen soon

Re: What is the best hard drive?

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Always love reading HDD reliability stats from Backblaze -- but this demonstrates one of the reasons why post dating is so important, especially when the information in the post is time-sensitive. Nowhere on the page does it say that the post date is today, unless you click the "latest posts" tab by the author below. I had originally though it was a repost of the many older articles from Backblaze until seeing a refe…

Yev from Backblaze here -> it's an internal debate as to whether we should put dates on everything. It used to be that they were part of the URL (because of the way our blog was designed) but that is no longer the case. We decided to leave them off for a while to see if that made posts more "evergreen", but we definitely see where it can lead to some confusion. We'll keep chatting about it internally, there's likely…

This (and I'd argue most tech posts) is not at all evergreen content though.

Re: What is the best hard drive?

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post #61

Let me start off by saying I am a Backblaze customer and I LOVE these posts and use them as my bible for buying drives for my NAS/Media Server. With that said this is going to sound a little nitpicky but why isn't the publication date anywhere on this article? I've noticed a growing number of blogs not putting the publish date anywhere on the blog page which makes it really hard to know if what they say is still vali…

I'm feeling foolish for not reading it and purchasing four Seagate Barracuda 7200.14s. I had no failures so far but with a 50% failure rate it's bound to happen soon

As someone with 8x3TB Seagate's I feel your pain. My new build will only use 4TB+ Seagate's or HGST (But they are pricey).

Re: What is the best hard drive?

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I love the data, but I'm a little mad that Hitachi had to die as a company and got sold into pieces. I'm not sure if I trust what you guys did, calling the old Hitachi Drives as HGST. Technically, the 3.5" drives from Hitachi got sold to Toshiba. For example, the Toshiba DT01ACA300 is allegedly the same design as the Hitachi 7k3000. In the following link, note that the "HDS723030BLE640" is the model number to the 7k3…

> I'm not sure if I trust what you guys did, calling the old Hitachi Drives as HGST. > I don't know if HGST drives are related to the old Hitachi models at all. FTA: > Some of the HGST drives listed were manufactured under their previous brand, Hitachi. We’ve been asked to use the HGST name and we have honored that request.

I do realize that is what was asked of them. But that doesn't necessarily mean that was the correct way to go about it.

The Serial Number / Model Number information on the other hand should work if enough details are provided.

Re: What is the best hard drive?

#66
This sums up my experience with Seagate. I bought my first Barracuda 3TB two months ago, it died out 20 days later with the notorious two-click sound.

I can't even be bothered to push warranty for replacement, terrible. Sticking with WD from now on.

Re: What is the best hard drive?

#67

I can't load this site because blackblaze only supports 2 TLS ciphers. TLS_RSA_WITH_RC4_128_SHA, TLS_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA

https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=https%3A%2F%2...

RC4 and 3DES, top of the line secure Cloud storage service indeed.

I browse with old insecure ciphers disabled, and I seem to remember having no problem reading backblaze blog before, either they downgraded their security (Occulus rifts website used to downgrade to rc4 whenever you wanted to pay them any money, but that was before FB buyout), or I disabled rc4 later than I thought.

Re: What is the best hard drive?

#68
Oof. I've got a NAS with 4 3TB Seagate Barracudas, same model number as the drives with the 46% failure rate. One's already failed, and I replaced it with the same model drive.

Anyone have a recommendation for how to replace all the drives with more reliable models without wrecking the RAID? Downtime is okay, but I don't have spare space for the contents to make a giant backup. It's currently set up as a "Synology Hybrid RAID" that looks an awful lot like a RAID 5.

Re: What is the best hard drive?

#69
post #32

The winner of this post, HGST (formerly Hitachi Global Storage Technologies) is a wholly owned subsidiary of Western Digital. Their NAS are well rated on Amazon & Newegg. Personally, I'm more concerned about the lifetime of laptop HDD (500GB range). Wonder what's the time frame around which I should swap it out (& what brand)

Given that you can get 512GB M2 SSDs now, I'd say go for that if you're worried about reliability. From what I've read, SSDs are more reliable unless you're trying very hard to wear out their endurance (on the order of 2PB according to http://techreport.com/review/27436/the-ssd-endurance-experim... )

SSDs also have a wide variance in failure rates by model, the highest I've heard is 8%.

Re: What is the best hard drive?

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post #2

Always love reading HDD reliability stats from Backblaze -- but this demonstrates one of the reasons why post dating is so important, especially when the information in the post is time-sensitive. Nowhere on the page does it say that the post date is today, unless you click the "latest posts" tab by the author below. I had originally though it was a repost of the many older articles from Backblaze until seeing a refe…

Hopefully the end-goal of all these posts and pages is somewhat real-time (maybe updated daily or weekly) data on hard drive reliability. Then the blog posts just serve as a layman's write-up of the interpretation of the data.
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