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Re: What is the best hard drive?

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Post by kbenson »

mmastrac wrote: post #2

Always love reading HDD reliability stats from Backblaze -- but this demonstrates one of the reasons why post dating is so important, especially when the information in the post is time-sensitive. Nowhere on the page does it say that the post date is today, unless you click the "latest posts" tab by the author below. I had originally though it was a repost of the many older articles from Backblaze until seeing a refe…

Unless they just added the date all over the first couple of paragraphs, the content itself is very clear immediately as to exactly what time period it conforms to, and is not hard to see at all.

Re: What is the best hard drive?

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Post by chdir »

The winner of this post, HGST (formerly Hitachi Global Storage Technologies) is a wholly owned subsidiary of Western Digital. Their NAS are well rated on Amazon & Newegg.

Personally, I'm more concerned about the lifetime of laptop HDD (500GB range). Wonder what's the time frame around which I should swap it out (& what brand)

Re: What is the best hard drive?

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Post by gnopgnip »

k-mcgrady wrote: post #24
rootbear wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a general rule, I get really annoyed when I come across a web page and I can't tell how old it is, especially if it is information that is likely to age rapidly. I don't care if putting a date on the page makes it less "evergreen", hurts someones SEO stats or makes the flowers wilt, I just want to know if I can trust what I'm reading.

>> "makes it less "evergreen"" The evergreen no date thing is fine with me - provided the content itself is actually evergreen. That's the bit people seem to forget. Not dating content doesn't magically make it last forever. If the information is unlikely to expire then I don't need a date. If there is a chance that the information will go out of date, especially if the dated information will not be useful to the rea…

In five years will the failure rate of 3-4tb drives that are harvested from external enclosures matter?

Re: What is the best hard drive?

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Post by redorb »

atYevP wrote: post #4
mmastrac wrote: post #2

Always love reading HDD reliability stats from Backblaze -- but this demonstrates one of the reasons why post dating is so important, especially when the information in the post is time-sensitive. Nowhere on the page does it say that the post date is today, unless you click the "latest posts" tab by the author below. I had originally though it was a repost of the many older articles from Backblaze until seeing a refe…

Yev from Backblaze here -> it's an internal debate as to whether we should put dates on everything. It used to be that they were part of the URL (because of the way our blog was designed) but that is no longer the case. We decided to leave them off for a while to see if that made posts more "evergreen", but we definitely see where it can lead to some confusion. We'll keep chatting about it internally, there's likely…

Perhaps a good middle ground is to add a date to these types of posts - but put the date in a image - so its user readable but most likely skipped by search engines

Re: What is the best hard drive?

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Post by joshstrange »

Let me start off by saying I am a Backblaze customer and I LOVE these posts and use them as my bible for buying drives for my NAS/Media Server.

With that said this is going to sound a little nitpicky but why isn't the publication date anywhere on this article? I've noticed a growing number of blogs not putting the publish date anywhere on the blog page which makes it really hard to know if what they say is still valid. In this case you can infer from the dates of the drives they tested that it was published in 2015 but a number of blogs don't have those clues in the blog to let you know when it was posted. Normally you can look at the URL to see the date but BB uses slugs off /blog/ so you can't get the date from there either.

Re: What is the best hard drive?

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Post by cjensen »

Love and appreciate that Backblaze presents this data, but there are some obvious issues: comparing the annual failure rate of a pool where avg. age is 1 year to a pool where avg. age is 3 years isn't a great comparison.

Rather than annual rates, I'd really prefer to see failure rate after six months, one year, two years, etc. This would make it easier to answer questions like "was drive X always bad? Or just when new? Or just when old?"

Re: What is the best hard drive?

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Post by shampine »

userbinator wrote: post #15

The Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 3 TB drives are another story. We’ll cover how we handled their failure rates in a future blog post. I'm really looking forward to this... could it be a similar problem to the one that caused the huge amount of 7200.11 failures a few years ago?

Are you referring to the botched firmware ones (I think the firmware revision was SD15)?

If so, at the time (~2008) I had an HTPC with 10 1TB-1.5TB drives with 6 of 10 affected by the firmware issues. I was able to successfully flash all my drives at the time with no data loss.

Re: What is the best hard drive?

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Post by RickHull »

dragontamer wrote: post #29

I love the data, but I'm a little mad that Hitachi had to die as a company and got sold into pieces. I'm not sure if I trust what you guys did, calling the old Hitachi Drives as HGST. Technically, the 3.5" drives from Hitachi got sold to Toshiba. For example, the Toshiba DT01ACA300 is allegedly the same design as the Hitachi 7k3000. In the following link, note that the "HDS723030BLE640" is the model number to the 7k3…

> I'm not sure if I trust what you guys did, calling the old Hitachi Drives as HGST.

> I don't know if HGST drives are related to the old Hitachi models at all.

FTA:

> Some of the HGST drives listed were manufactured under their previous brand, Hitachi. We’ve been asked to use the HGST name and we have honored that request.

Re: What is the best hard drive?

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Post by seanp2k2 »

chdir wrote: post #32

The winner of this post, HGST (formerly Hitachi Global Storage Technologies) is a wholly owned subsidiary of Western Digital. Their NAS are well rated on Amazon & Newegg. Personally, I'm more concerned about the lifetime of laptop HDD (500GB range). Wonder what's the time frame around which I should swap it out (& what brand)

Given that you can get 512GB M2 SSDs now, I'd say go for that if you're worried about reliability. From what I've read, SSDs are more reliable unless you're trying very hard to wear out their endurance (on the order of 2PB according to http://techreport.com/review/27436/the-ssd-endurance-experim... )

Re: What is the best hard drive?

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Post by joering2 »

I think there has never been more personal piece of technology than your full of important data hard drive, especially pre-cloud era, when now people just don't worry much of a dying hardware.

But back in the ole' days, every one of us have lost very personal data due to hardware failure at some point. And it's interesting how the opinion about brands are being formed.

For example, my first drive that died was Seagate. Surprise surprise my opinion about said company is very low now. But in most part, it's very bias opinion, especially given the fact I have never owned another Seagate for the reason of crash. I love WD and never had one failed, currently about 20 full of data. But I met bunch of folks who hate WD and had them crush and they lost important data. And they love Seagate.

It's interesting how opinions about hard drives are being formed throughout our lives.

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