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I Owe It All to Community College

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Re: I Owe It All to Community College

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so is irregardless. Can I ask why you take the time to correct someone when it was perfectly clear what the intent of the sentence was?

Why wouldn't you want to help the person improve his/her English?

Because it isn't an improvement, much like how getting someone who spells it 'color' to spell the word 'colour' or vice-versa.

Re: I Owe It All to Community College

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> As a libertarian / ancap who believes taxation is theft, I don't support anything involving spending tax dollars, no matter how noble the end. It's a good thing most of us don't feel that way and you're able to express yourself through a medium initially funded through Government research.

That sounds like a good argument for government funding, except we can't see the privately funded "internets" that might have been crowded out by public investment. To make an analogy, Comcast could say to the critics of their monopolization that "it's a good thing that we are here, otherwise you wouldn't have any internet at all!", but would you buy it?

No I wouldn't buy it because your analogy doesn't make any sense. There was no private investment in the 'internets' to crowd out when it was being built. There are plenty of options for an ISPs like Comcast.

Re: I Owe It All to Community College

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What this says to me is that we should immediately stop pouring money into conflagrations overseas.

But then our gasoline prices would go up.

They'll go up when our elected officials succeed in leveraging the low gas prices as an excuse to increase gas taxes either way, really... and then they'll likely go up again on their own for double-up power.

Re: I Owe It All to Community College

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The Iraq War has cost us ~$6,000,000,000,000 (that's ~$17k per US citizen). Under Obama's plan, that money could be used to pay for two years of community college for every student willing to do the require work for the next 1000 years! Of course we shouldn't "buy everything that's cheaper than the Iraq war", but that's not what is being argued. This was just to show a contrast between two ~10-year projects. It doesn…

How do you propose we evaluate the return on the Iraq War?

This could open an entire can of worms.

I would be curious to see how any war ROI is calculated when not in a conquer and pillage situation (spoils of war and what not).

Re: I Owe It All to Community College

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I went to a community college for my first year. It was a bad choice: the financial gains were minimal, the networking gained was lost when I transferred, and the academic environment was very weak (mostly because the normal major was "sex, drugs, and beer", not the instructors' fault).

Other people I know have had better experiences at CC.

I fully support the idea of community college, in particular, I see it as a righteous place for things like coding bootcamps and trade training in general. Vo-Tech schools get a rough knock - they shouldn't.

One particular grief that has stood out to me is the financial recompense for instructing at a CC. I've looked into it (I am qualified to do so), and I believe I would take somewhere around a 40% pay cut to teach at a CC. That's ... suboptimal.

Re: I Owe It All to Community College

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post #189

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OT: > irregardless regardless is fine.

> and wish this was true. *were http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subjunctive_mood

Using the conditional mood that way is common in American English. Hardly a strict error.

Re: I Owe It All to Community College

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post #166

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Why wouldn't you want to help the person improve his/her English?

Because it isn't an improvement, much like how getting someone who spells it 'color' to spell the word 'colour' or vice-versa.

'colo[u]r' is merely a spelling difference. 'irregardless' is a double-negative to some people, and not to others. It's an ambiguous word.

Re: I Owe It All to Community College

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That sounds like a good argument for government funding, except we can't see the privately funded "internets" that might have been crowded out by public investment. To make an analogy, Comcast could say to the critics of their monopolization that "it's a good thing that we are here, otherwise you wouldn't have any internet at all!", but would you buy it?

No I wouldn't buy it because your analogy doesn't make any sense. There was no private investment in the 'internets' to crowd out when it was being built. There are plenty of options for an ISPs like Comcast.

There was no private investment in the 'internets'

No? Then what were CompuServe, Tymnet and Telenet, for example, all of which started their network businesses without using the Internet/ARPANET protocols?

Re: I Owe It All to Community College

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How do you propose we evaluate the return on the Iraq War?

This could open an entire can of worms. I would be curious to see how any war ROI is calculated when not in a conquer and pillage situation (spoils of war and what not).

I would count Iraq as a conquer and pillage situation -- see, for instance, _Pay Any Price_ by James Risen.

Re: I Owe It All to Community College

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I live in a post-colonial country where English is the official language but 90% of the population have another language as their mother-tongue. There is therefore a lot of "broken" english spoken, and I guess I'm just used to correcting people (and being corrected myself). Irregardless is one of those words that is becoming OK to say just because so many people use it. Language adapts and therefore English is descri…

A statement in a programming language means the same regardless of the education-level, ethnicity, or social status of the reader. I wish the same were true for English. That would make English very boring and dry. What of poetry and evocative prose? Natural languages and programming languages serve very different purposes, despite their similarities. Natural languages, since their inception, have been subjective ref…

I think we agree with each other. Words like "ain't" entering the common lexicon (usually in spoken english) is fine by me ie. Words formed out of contractions of other words/phrases, or entirely new inventions.

What I mostly get riled up about are words or phrases that are just plain wrong, but that have been used so widely that some dictionaries have accepted them as correct.

Eg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om7O0MFkmpw

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