Is the " je suis charlie " pdf an Isis hack?
Je Suis Charlie
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Re: Je Suis Charlie
#82I wonder if the debate in the media will focus on religious fanaticism or if they'll start victim blaming by arguing that Charlie Hebdo was asking for it, being provocative.
Sally Kohn of CNN: "It is not inconsistent to believe in free speech AND be against insulting other people’s faith traditions. #CharlieHedbo" Totally disregarding that machine-gunning to death 11 people because you're offended, which is what just happened, is a gross violation of free speech in addition to being a human tragedy. By bringing this up right now, how could this be interpreted any other way than believing…
Nothing positive can come out of being against insulting other people's faith tradition, or insulting ideas in general.
It's just ideas. You're free to have them and express them, everyone else is free to agree with them or ridicule them.
Ridiculing ideas is a victimless crime and the foundation of freedom.
Re: Je Suis Charlie
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
People are going in the streets to support the newspaper in France and other European cities, a map is available here: http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-divers/carte-interactive-tous... A noticeable fact is how mainstream newspapers in France are careful not to make the amalgam between these few barbarians and a whole religion.
> not to make the amalgam between these few barbarians and a whole religion. Something that reddit doesn't care about at all. I was wondering if no post about this event was on HN's frontpage because it tries to avoid political/flame wars. But now this is on the frontpage 5 hours after... And it's not even relevant.
The other stories get flagged. Turn on "showdead" to show them.
Not sure why you think it's not relevant? Je Suis charlie is the phrase being used to show support and solidarity.
(This is an unfortunate language coincidence.)
Re: Je Suis Charlie
#84BBC coverage: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30710883 I am outraged at the enormity of the murders, but I can't see a simple solution given the significant presence of extremists. Their brazen acts know no limits; what then are governments to do? In my country, Singapore (which has a significant Muslim population), we have a relative lack of incidents or conflict, but the government also maintains tight control…
Are you implying that you need to have tight control of citizens if you have a significant Muslim population? Somehow the US doesn't have this problem within the Muslim community.
Somehow the US doesn't have this problem within the Muslim community.
Really? What about the 2009 Fort Hood shooting, the 2010 Times Square car bombing attempt and the Boston Marathon bombings?
Also, the US certainly keeps a close - often oppressive - watch over its Muslim community. This American Life had an episode about it: http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/471
(See also the AP prize-winning investigation that TAL mentions on the NYPD probes into the city's mosques)
Re: Je Suis Charlie
#85Is the je suis charlie pdf an isis hack? A planted virus?
Re: Je Suis Charlie
#86Is the je suis charlie pdf an isis hack? A planted virus?
Re: Je Suis Charlie
#87I wonder if the debate in the media will focus on religious fanaticism or if they'll start victim blaming by arguing that Charlie Hebdo was asking for it, being provocative.
The #KillAllMuslims contingent is out if you care to have a look at that. https://twitter.com/roqchams/status/552833198036484098
Great. Violent nut jobs on both sides now. Not that I'm surprised...
Re: Je Suis Charlie
#88Posted on my Facebook wall immediately. Thanks for sharing the link. Earlier today, I was searching for news stories about the shooting incident in Paris that would actually show the cartoons published by Charlie Hebdo to establish context for how cowardly and despicable the shooting was. Most English-language press outlets are not showing the cartoons. A comment on one news site pointed out that Spanish-language med…
The appropriate response is print blasphemous cartoons in every paper in the free world. Do they think they can kill everyone?
I think cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad may be in the process of being introduced to a certain Barbra Streisand.
Re: Je Suis Charlie
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well ... this is satirical magazine that puts offensive content on purpose (not pointlessly though) and they had their headquarters attacked and 10 personal killed (also 2 police officers). They were notorious for mocking all religions and have posted content offensive to all. Right now it is thought that this was the work on islamist terrorists (I have not seen reliable info though, and crazy is cross religion) Now…
Tiny detail, one of the cops that was killed on duty was a Muslim man named Ahmed. Hoping this will help avoiding the racist crowd to take advantage of the event too much.
I really doubt it ... the recent Ny cops death and the reaction of the minority of the force (and mostly the union leadership) showed - people will spin any event in whatever is needed, if it is their job to do so.
Re: Je Suis Charlie
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
And "Je Suis Charlie" echoes Kennedy's famous line: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ich_bin_ein_Berliner
Please tell me "Charlie" refers to something hilarious, much like "ein Berliner" meant "a donut", more/less. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mu02xUgE4k (Don't mean to take away from the gravity of the situation — merely wanted to share a good laugh.)
(That's irrelevant. However, it's also an urban legend. Be rest assured that no one in Kennedy's German audience was even for a second confused and didn't understand exactly what he meant. He was perfectly clear. Even if you argue that his choice of words is grammatically questionable – something I disagree with and I think it works quite well as an emphasis and makes it clear that he is speaking figuratively and not simply declaring that he is from Berlin or was born in Berlin – the context of his speech and the preceding sentence as well as the sentence itself make it crystal clear what he is talking about and also insures that no one is thinking of baked things.)