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Re: Intel Compute Stick

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Post by toyg »

boyaka wrote: post #170
_nedR wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find that Intel makes quite a few great products and initiatives. They just don't market it as loudly as others. The Intel NUC ( http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/nuc/overview.html ) is quite a versatile machine - smaller, better performance and value for money than mac minis, and more hacker friendly. It even has a cute unboxing experience (The box plays the intel jingle when you open it) Then there are initi…

I got my Dad a NUC for Christmas...He hasn't really been using it yet. I think this might have been a more interesting and simple gift, wish it came out in time. I did get to play with the NUC because I wanted to have it all configured and ready to use. It was interesting to see how they got all of the components packed in and I was impressed by the performance. Main issue I had was graphics support, because I wanted…

> There's just so many different options for computing these days. It's like information overload, but with hardware.

Yeah. I have two Dreamplugs lying there unused at the moment, plus a CuBox used as NAS/TimeMachine, and a MicroPython waiting for some free time... so many options, so little time.

They are also getting so powerful, I'm seriously considering a few "enterprise" scenarios. Remember when IT meant mainframes, so individual departments would just bypass them and buy their own PCs? I think we're ready for a new wave of that decentralized approach: between mobile and these little bad boys, there's plenty of power around to run a number of applications that would have required a rack server 5 or 10 years ago. Now John Accountant could just buy a little silent box and put it on his desk, without having to go through hellish rounds of IT approvals.

Re: Intel Compute Stick

#192

Post by greggman »

_nedR wrote: post #145
Jormundir wrote: post #135

This looks awesome. Finally a piece of tech I actually want, and by Intel of all companies. The bigger consumer companies have been shuffling their feet, releasing arbitrary, very closed off pieces of tech that I don't really need. I really applaud Intel for making the tiny little PC I've been wanting for media and linux tomfoolery. The Chromecast was a no-go, and now with an apple tv, I'm feeling a little too enclos…

I find that Intel makes quite a few great products and initiatives. They just don't market it as loudly as others. The Intel NUC ( http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/nuc/overview.html ) is quite a versatile machine - smaller, better performance and value for money than mac minis, and more hacker friendly. It even has a cute unboxing experience (The box plays the intel jingle when you open it) Then there are initi…

I was forced to use NUCs for a project. They were under powered for me. All I needed to do was draw 5 fullscreen quads at 1920x1080 but all they could handle was 4 fullscreen quads at 1280x720.

I'm sure they're great for some things so YMMV

Re: Intel Compute Stick

#193

Post by asuidyasiud »

simi_ wrote: post #181
riffraff wrote: post #177

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there are birthday card that do the same, it's very little extra stuff compared to the computer itself, I imagine.

Good point. However to me it still just seems terribly wasteful/stupid. Considering the aux battery in most computing devices, couldn't the musical thingie be embedded into the computer itself?

It is completely irrelevant, ecologically speaking.

Re: Intel Compute Stick

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Post by digi_owl »

Jormundir wrote: post #135

This looks awesome. Finally a piece of tech I actually want, and by Intel of all companies. The bigger consumer companies have been shuffling their feet, releasing arbitrary, very closed off pieces of tech that I don't really need. I really applaud Intel for making the tiny little PC I've been wanting for media and linux tomfoolery. The Chromecast was a no-go, and now with an apple tv, I'm feeling a little too enclos…

I am of two minds about Intel. Lately they have been producing some fairly interesting products. But at the same time they have a virtual stranglehold on the x86 ISA.

Re: Intel Compute Stick

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Post by digi_owl »

discardorama wrote: post #75
aditya wrote: post #40

$149 for Windows 8.1 version and $89 for Linux version, not bad. via: http://techreport.com/news/27619/intel-compute-stick-is-a-14...

... and the Linux version will have half the RAM (1GB instead of 2GB) and a fourth the storage (8GB instead of 32GB). I think I might pass on this.

Reminds me of the tail end of netbooks. After MS had resuscitated XP via a restrictive OEM license, and Intel had cooked up the first gen or so of Atom...

Re: Intel Compute Stick

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Post by [deleted] »

damian2000 wrote: post #92
nacs wrote: post #87

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I'm not really concerned about whether Linux will run 'fine' on less hardware, I'd just want to be able to purchase the higher-end (hardware-wise) version. I'm not going to buy the high-end version if it requires me to buy the prepackaged Windows license however.

Yeah, its strange that the OS is preinstalled, whereas with the Intel NUC I believe it comes without an OS and you need to do the setup yourself, which is preferable.

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Re: Intel Compute Stick

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Post by walterbell »

wtallis wrote: post #173
jrockway wrote: post #104

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There are ARM CPUs available that do network forwarding in hardware. Some even support iptables rules. I would be very surprised if a quad-core current-gen Atom could not do that in software, though. I could route 300Mbps through OpenBSD's pf on an AMD Geode.

There's a lot out there that can do NAT and some firewalling in software at large fractions of a gigabit/s for pretty cheap. But if you throw in QoS and queue management the CPU requirements get very high by the standards of MIPS and embedded x86. And unfortunately, none of the network acceleration hardware you'll find on any of those SoCs has anything like a hardware implementation of fq_codel or even RED. The CeroW…

How about running the packet filter in a dual-NIC VM on a VT-d capable PC? Dell T20 has Xeon E3 for $500 with 1TB disk and 4GB RAM. Add a PCI NIC for firewall purposes and still have the rest of the PC for use to run other VMs. GPU can be passed through to another VM.

Re: Intel Compute Stick

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Post by Tomte »

damian2000 wrote: post #92
nacs wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not really concerned about whether Linux will run 'fine' on less hardware, I'd just want to be able to purchase the higher-end (hardware-wise) version. I'm not going to buy the high-end version if it requires me to buy the prepackaged Windows license however.

Yeah, its strange that the OS is preinstalled, whereas with the Intel NUC I believe it comes without an OS and you need to do the setup yourself, which is preferable.

It may be preferable to you, but it's certainly not for the intended audience.

Re: Intel Compute Stick

#199

Post by walterbell »

toyg wrote: post #191
boyaka wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got my Dad a NUC for Christmas...He hasn't really been using it yet. I think this might have been a more interesting and simple gift, wish it came out in time. I did get to play with the NUC because I wanted to have it all configured and ready to use. It was interesting to see how they got all of the components packed in and I was impressed by the performance. Main issue I had was graphics support, because I wanted…

> There's just so many different options for computing these days. It's like information overload, but with hardware. Yeah. I have two Dreamplugs lying there unused at the moment, plus a CuBox used as NAS/TimeMachine, and a MicroPython waiting for some free time... so many options, so little time. They are also getting so powerful, I'm seriously considering a few "enterprise" scenarios. Remember when IT meant mainfra…

Since the silent box can run multiple VMs, it can be the equivalent of a small rack from yesteryear.

Re: Intel Compute Stick

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Post by Tomte »

damian2000 wrote: post #84
discardorama wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

... and the Linux version will have half the RAM (1GB instead of 2GB) and a fourth the storage (8GB instead of 32GB). I think I might pass on this.

Linux will probably run fine on those specs, remember Windows has a ton of overhead in terms of RAM and storage.

That's simply not true.
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