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Re: Intel Compute Stick

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Post by _nedR »

Sven7 wrote: post #155
_nedR wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find that Intel makes quite a few great products and initiatives. They just don't market it as loudly as others. The Intel NUC ( http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/nuc/overview.html ) is quite a versatile machine - smaller, better performance and value for money than mac minis, and more hacker friendly. It even has a cute unboxing experience (The box plays the intel jingle when you open it) Then there are initi…

That is because their target customer has never been the end user. How many people with a smart phone have heard of Qualcomm?

Well. Intel has always pitched themselves to the end-customer. The 'Intel Inside', Ultrabook, etc., campaigns have all been so that the customer insists on an Intel device.

Re: Intel Compute Stick

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Post by vacri »

rab_oof wrote: post #126
jerf wrote: post #122

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"server boxes are far faster, cheaper and greener. Worse, it's an un-upgradable device to buy and throw away." How many of these devices would you have to buy and throw away to match the environmental material footprint of even one 1U rack-mount server? They're tiny . Orders of magnitude matter. (Similar effect: However "disposable" USB flash drives may superficially seem, compared to the floppies they replaced they…

How many of these sticks, powered hubs and controlling computers would you have to buy to equal one green 1U server? On the order of 64 USB sticks, 15 powered hubs AND one computer... That's 15 cheap bricks and a computer's power supply that have to be made and suck down power versus a quality, high-efficiency switching PSU that is about ~98% efficient. Doing the math on the supply chain sourcing of each component is…

How does a cloud VM satisfy the 'intel stick' use-case? Where is the HDMI port?

Also, since you're piling on every possible thing you can to make your case, you should also include the power systems of every networking device between your cloud VM and you.

Re: Intel Compute Stick

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Post by tzakrajs »

knotty66 wrote: post #160
_nedR wrote: post #150

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I don't know, but since its form-factor and size puts in direct contention with Android Sticks (which go for about 60$), it should be priced similarly. Also it has to be cheaper than the cheapest Celeron-based Intel NUC(140$). So i expect the price should be somewhere in between.

Worth mentioning NUCs don't come with memory or storage.

Or wifi...

Re: Intel Compute Stick

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Post by sliverstorm »

jerf wrote: post #122
rab_oof wrote: post #109

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Yup. Seems like pointless, instant-gratification consumerism when server boxes are far faster, cheaper and greener. Worse, it's an un-upgradable device to buy and throw away. Anyone that needs more horsepower, it's far simpler to either trade up, use a real server or just use a cloud/VPS similar to AWS.

"server boxes are far faster, cheaper and greener. Worse, it's an un-upgradable device to buy and throw away." How many of these devices would you have to buy and throw away to match the environmental material footprint of even one 1U rack-mount server? They're tiny . Orders of magnitude matter. (Similar effect: However "disposable" USB flash drives may superficially seem, compared to the floppies they replaced they…

Floppies are plastic and vinyl. Flash drives require an entire foundry worth of heavy metals and exotic compounds. I doubt it is the clear win you think.

Re: Intel Compute Stick

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Post by mikle »

brk wrote: post #37
allworknoplay wrote: post #27

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seriously, what a bunch of dinosaurs

Honestly, I'd rather see that instead of the current version which is "Give us your email, and then spam all your contacts, and maybe we'll bump you up on the exclusive early beta list". Half of these companies think they're launching a cure for cancer delivered via an exclusive nightclub with the "beta signups".

TBH, early adopters have no problem giving their email for these kind of stuff. Even weirder is your conclusion that if you give someone your email he can spam your contacts, which he obviously can't.

Re: Intel Compute Stick

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Post by jdoliner »

barrkel wrote: post #166

Presumably this thing needs a power brick too, though? As I read it, HDMI as standard only supports +5V at 55mA. Taiwanese versions of this thing linked on this discussion suggest it needs +5V at 2A: http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=514&t=4112495

According to http://techreport.com/news/27619/intel-compute-stick-is-a-14... it's micro usb right now but they're going to make it HDMI only eventually.

Re: Intel Compute Stick

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Post by barrkel »

jdoliner wrote: post #168
barrkel wrote: post #166

Presumably this thing needs a power brick too, though? As I read it, HDMI as standard only supports +5V at 55mA. Taiwanese versions of this thing linked on this discussion suggest it needs +5V at 2A: http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=514&t=4112495

According to http://techreport.com/news/27619/intel-compute-stick-is-a-14... it's micro usb right now but they're going to make it HDMI only eventually.

Do TVs these days come with high current USB ports? 500mA probably isn't enough.

Re: Intel Compute Stick

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Post by boyaka »

_nedR wrote: post #145
Jormundir wrote: post #135

This looks awesome. Finally a piece of tech I actually want, and by Intel of all companies. The bigger consumer companies have been shuffling their feet, releasing arbitrary, very closed off pieces of tech that I don't really need. I really applaud Intel for making the tiny little PC I've been wanting for media and linux tomfoolery. The Chromecast was a no-go, and now with an apple tv, I'm feeling a little too enclos…

I find that Intel makes quite a few great products and initiatives. They just don't market it as loudly as others. The Intel NUC ( http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/nuc/overview.html ) is quite a versatile machine - smaller, better performance and value for money than mac minis, and more hacker friendly. It even has a cute unboxing experience (The box plays the intel jingle when you open it) Then there are initi…

I got my Dad a NUC for Christmas...He hasn't really been using it yet. I think this might have been a more interesting and simple gift, wish it came out in time. I did get to play with the NUC because I wanted to have it all configured and ready to use. It was interesting to see how they got all of the components packed in and I was impressed by the performance. Main issue I had was graphics support, because I wanted to put Elementary OS on it to see if he'd be interested in trying out Linux. Ended up going with the latest Ubuntu instead (Elementary OS Luna is built on Ubuntu 12.04) which worked fine.

My Dad had gone through a couple of those Shuttle "Mini" computers (the motherboards were Flex-ATX, slightly bigger than Mini-ITX and obviously needed to be smaller than micro-ATX), so I thought the NUC (between Nano-ITX and Pico-ITX [1]) might appeal to him. They both died and he's currently using a standard desktop. I believe one or both of his Shuttle's died due to a PSU failure, so it's nice to have the external power brick on the NUC.

He and my Mom had previously been using a Windows Media Center desktop with a tuner card and Comcast cable, but they're using DirecTV boxes on all the TVs now so not much need for a HTPC. He said he was thinking about trying to use the NUC with Windows 8 and a touch screen somehow...Not really sure how he can accomplish that. Besides introducing him to Linux, I was thinking he could use it on his TV as just an alternate computer and wanted to show him how to use Synergy to control it with his desktop keyboard/mouse. He's currently switching his TV between the DirecTV box and his desktop as a second display.

At the very least it's a backup, and he could potentially take it on trips as a more powerful alternative to a laptop. There's just so many different options for computing these days. It's like information overload, but with hardware.

[1] http://www.anandtech.com/show/5800/slimming-desktops-down-in... (existence of Nano-ITX and Pico-ITX pointed out in the comments)

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