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Re: India Orders 32 Websites Blocked, Including GitHub, Archive.Org, Pastebin

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Post by vegabook »

al2o3cr wrote: post #179
vegabook wrote: post #149

There is a case to be made for the idea that America-hosted, America-doctrine birthed, websites, do not jive with everybody on the planet. The idea that Github is beyond reproach and blocking it makes no sense is superficially tempting, until you realise that the vast, vast majority of projects on it are America-led. Why is it so surprising to block a culture which is permeating the planet, to the detriment of other…

I hear if you close your eyes, the whole world stops existing. Try that.

quite the contrary - it is by opening my eyes that I question the hegemony of the current internet culture. It is not 100% obvious that a global information free-for-all has only upsides. And you will hopefully recognise that this kind of post will be a magnet for downvotes, but so be it. I wish to assess all angles, no matter how unpalatable they may be to the majority thinking.

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Post by jrockway »

revelation wrote: post #29

I love Indian government statements, they are always so transparently incompetent, inane and corrupt, as are the accompanying actions, like blocking a random PHP project on sourceforge. I guess we'll just never know why they do these stupid things. By the time some bureaucrat has to give a statement all they can get out is terror , ISIS and anti India .

Calling everything "terrorism" reminds me of McCarthy and "communism" in the 50s.

I assume we'll grow out of it soon enough.

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Post by jaekwon »

adventured wrote: post #123
jaekwon wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like the threat of a nuclear bomb? Not just NK but Fat Man too.

By that definition Russia is a giant terrorist organization, seeing as they're pointing nuclear missiles at a lot of cities in North America and Europe.

Yes. That's my point. Most of us live under terrorist regimes. Black people are terrorized by the police. The middle east is terrorized by the US. We're terrorized by Russia.

To isolate a few and to give them the label of "terrorist" for being a bit more terrifying is a form of brainwashing.

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Post by thomasfoster96 »

SixSigma wrote: post #94
mullingitover wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Germany, Japan, the UK and the US (among others) all did things in WWII that count as terrorism, and no, the term isn't useless. The textbook definition, "the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims" is exactly what was happening in the war, although I would add the caveat that it's violence and intimidation against civilians. Using violence and intimidation against enemy troops is just regu…

So beheading Lee Rigby on the streets of the UK was regular warfare? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lee_Rigby

I think the attackers used that exact defense during legal proceedings.

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Post by frozenport »

happyscrappy wrote: post #50
bbarn wrote: post #4

Arvind Gupta, the head of IT Cell, BJP Tweeted: "The websites that have been blocked were based on an advisory by Anti Terrorism Squad, and were carrying Anti India content from ISIS. The sites that have removed objectionable content and/or cooperated with the on going investigations, are being unblocked." This is bad. archive.org by default should have all sorts of offensive things on it. Pastebin and github should…

As crazy as it sounds some HN users defend ISIS. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8808630

Yeah, and some HN users are hired shills for Russia and China.

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Post by anandrm »

bbarn wrote: post #4

Arvind Gupta, the head of IT Cell, BJP Tweeted: "The websites that have been blocked were based on an advisory by Anti Terrorism Squad, and were carrying Anti India content from ISIS. The sites that have removed objectionable content and/or cooperated with the on going investigations, are being unblocked." This is bad. archive.org by default should have all sorts of offensive things on it. Pastebin and github should…

I m not sure if github is blocked, i m pulling repos right now from Bangalore.

Re: India Orders 32 Websites Blocked, Including GitHub, Archive.Org, Pastebin

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Post by frozenport »

vegabook wrote: post #149

There is a case to be made for the idea that America-hosted, America-doctrine birthed, websites, do not jive with everybody on the planet. The idea that Github is beyond reproach and blocking it makes no sense is superficially tempting, until you realise that the vast, vast majority of projects on it are America-led. Why is it so surprising to block a culture which is permeating the planet, to the detriment of other…

>>kind of barrier to the Americanisation of the planet, including via its dominant websites, is such a bad thing

India is a democracy, if they want to block it for 'cultural' reasons they should get the people's approval to block it for 'cultural' reasons. Right now they are acting on the wrong mandate. We are most likely looking at a case of gross detachment from the constituents they serve.

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Post by pavanred »

Isn't this setting a dangerous precedent, I am sure such tendency of issuing blanket bans could be misused. Perhaps the cheapest way to attack/bring down a big website or even quell competition, just post some offensive content on a website and let the government issue blanket bans.

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Post by tormeh »

larryfreeman wrote: post #164
Pxtl wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reports from experts in the region indicate that, as crazy as it sounds, (2) is correct. ISIS has built up an excellent reputation for stamping out corruption and running efficient social services and police forces within poor communities. Their horrifying acts of murder and collective punishment are often unrelated to the simple business of day-to-day-life. Think about living in a poor town with ongoing struggles wi…

Hitler probably seemed better at first than the group he replaced. I worry that with ISIS we have the same situation.

My grandmother used to say the streets were safer under the ww2 occupation.

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Post by chris_wot »

bigphishy wrote: post #177
jeremyjh wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You do realize that it's the Indian government at issue here, right?

I would argue that the indian government is doing this at the pressure from the united states government.

Zero evidence and sheer implausibility makes for a great conspiracy theory.
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