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Why I Drilled Holes in My MacBook Pro and Put It in the Oven

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Re: Why I Drilled Holes in My MacBook Pro and Put It in the Oven

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It also probably keeps you from being able to buy a €20 phone. There are trade-offs in nearly anything.

What are you talking about? I can get a €20 Samsung in any place that still sells dumbphones. I got a €30 Nokia 5 years ago and it still works splendid.

I got a 14e LG dumbphone 4+ years ago. That's what I still travel with today. The battery lasts longer than my Samsung S4.

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I always recommend looking into having laptops covered through your insurance company. I have state farm, and my wife and I have our laptops under personal article policies. The coverage is better, broader, and cheaper that anything else I've seen. My wife recently got a surface pro 3 to use during her forest soils PhD, and I was adamant we get nice insurance if she was going to be using it in the field. Two years of no deductible spill, drop, and malfunction coverage through squarespace is 280$. I get the same coverage plus theft and loss for 40 a year through my insurer. And it is a 3 block walk to the office where I can eat pastries and drink coffee while I file a claim. I have only had to file one claim, but it was for a head crash and they covered a new hard drive w/out question.

I'm not saying it is a good fit for everyone, but it works out well for me. I do recommend squarespace for individual parts of a self-built tower pc. I spent 120 on a motherboard and on the third replacement spquarespace upgraded me because it turned out that model had an almost 50% failure rate in the first year.

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To anyone who has had extensive issues with MBP's, I managed to get my 2007 replaced for free back in college with a new version by Apple after several unreasonable repairs (2x logic board, 3x LCD, 1x left IO board, 1x top case, 1x touchpad, 1x DVD drive).

Granted, it took a lot of "let me speak to your manager" and I believe needs to still be under Applecare in most instances, but it's always an option to pursue if you have the time and patience.

Thankfully the 2010 I received lasted until this year with no issues, and I finally replaced it after beating it to hell with a 2014 retina MBP that's been running smoothly so far.

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There is an alternate universe where every time he took his computer apart, he skipped the reflow heat stuff and just put it back together... and it worked identically for identical periods of time between failures. I'm not saying it's this universe, I'm just saying there is one out there.

I wondered that, too. I wonder whether he actually reflowed solder in the oven. Wikipedia gives a sample profile that heats to over 200 degrees Celsius for a minute or so. This uses around 170 degrees Celsius, which is used for preheating in the Wikipedia example. Also, a Google image search gives me reflow heats above 200 degrees for the 5 images I checked. Also "The speed holes worked: The boot chime rang. The scre…

It's possible that he did reflow the board. Consumer ovens usually reach 250C, slightly more when in autoclean mode. Lead-free reflow happens above 250C (normally 255-275C).

The whole procedure is wild, though, and I wouldn't recommend trying it out. He was lucky that the board didn't get destroyed. Most SMD components can withstand temperatures above 250C for tens of seconds, not necessarily for nine minutes.

Re: Why I Drilled Holes in My MacBook Pro and Put It in the Oven

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To anyone who has had extensive issues with MBP's, I managed to get my 2007 replaced for free back in college with a new version by Apple after several unreasonable repairs (2x logic board, 3x LCD, 1x left IO board, 1x top case, 1x touchpad, 1x DVD drive). Granted, it took a lot of "let me speak to your manager" and I believe needs to still be under Applecare in most instances, but it's always an option to pursue if…

Same. After 7 or 8 repairs to the same machine, I managed to convince Apple to give me its purchase price in store credit.

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I'm all for the repair ethic of iFixIt, but I wonder about the economy of this - besides the huge amount of time and uncertainty (that wouldn't be a good trade-off for anyone who isn't a professional repairer), I'd rather not know what sort of fumes rise off a circuit board when broiling it with a heat gun or taking it out of a hot oven.

Also, at what point is he willing to acknowledge that maybe this thing is not all that well designed, especially going by how widespread this problem seems to be?

Re: Why I Drilled Holes in My MacBook Pro and Put It in the Oven

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From this review ( http://www.cnet.com/products/lenovo-thinkpad-t420/ ): "Thick and bulky, with a keyboard studded with enough auxiliary buttons to look like a space shuttle control panel, the T420 is as old-school as a laptop can be." I mean, it's all a matter of trade-offs, as the parent says. Personally I have been using my Macbook mostly as a desktop replacement, so in hindsight I would probably trade the small f…

I don't get this recent idea that a laptop needs to be as thin and light as an envelope to be "mobile". I have as much "mobility" with this Thinkpad as someone with a Macbook air. Next you'll be telling me I'm sacrificing mobility with my phone because it's twice as thick as an iPhone 6. This argument seems like it would only come from somebody who has sacrificed usability for thinness and needs to come up with a way…

Taking your point to the next logical conclusion you would be okay taking a desktop computer with twin monitors instead of s MacBook Air.

I mean be serious. Thinness and weight are critical to a non insignificant group of people. They could be people like myself who have to take his laptop to/fro work slongside gym wear and s number of books. I couldn't physically csrry s heavier laptop.

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That laptop is twice as thick as a rMBP and puts out less than half as much heat. Even if Apple put vents in those places, it wouldn't cool adequately; the vent area would be half that of the Dell. To get the same temperatures, airflow would have to be 4x faster than in the Dell. And as I said before, vents on the bottom increase the risk of overheating when used on a bed or carpet. Critics hold Apple to a higher sta…

"In general, Apple makes quality hardware. If it were otherwise, they wouldn't be able to charge so much." My experience of Apple hardware, from owning it myself and from seeing how it fares for those around me who also use it, is that it's pretty, but poorly designed, lacking in features, and very unreliable. They are able to charge so much because they market it well. Also, OSX is a decent OS in comparison to Windo…

I don't really think that "learning Linux" makes it a better OS. Investing your time into Linux, maybe, but some of us want our OS to be time savers, not a time sinks.
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