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Why I Drilled Holes in My MacBook Pro and Put It in the Oven

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Re: Why I Drilled Holes in My MacBook Pro and Put It in the Oven

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Post by michaelt »

grandalf wrote: post #56
techrat wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'd think after 10 years having model after model of aluminium built laptops, Apple would have found a way to solve the heat issues they always have... but nope, they still think it's a good idea to put the heat exhaust vent right up against the bottom lip of the screen where it is still blocked when the machine is in use.

I'm sure Apple has done some pretty exhaustive (no pun intended) thermodynamic analysis of the case design. I have three macbooks, two airs and a 13" mpbr, and none have had any thermal issues at all, even in the heat of summer. If you are using a laptop in a way that generates that much heat, you probably get about 1 hour of battery life, which sort of defeats the purpose of having a laptop in the first place. A lar…

  I'm sure Apple has done some pretty exhaustive (no pun
  intended) thermodynamic analysis of the case design.
If (as this article says) users have to reflow their boards and drill holes in their cases, I would say not exhaustive enough!

Re: Why I Drilled Holes in My MacBook Pro and Put It in the Oven

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Post by mike-cardwell »

proveanegative wrote: post #100
mike-cardwell wrote: post #95

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I don't get this recent idea that a laptop needs to be as thin and light as an envelope to be "mobile". I have as much "mobility" with this Thinkpad as someone with a Macbook air. Next you'll be telling me I'm sacrificing mobility with my phone because it's twice as thick as an iPhone 6. This argument seems like it would only come from somebody who has sacrificed usability for thinness and needs to come up with a way…

>I don't get this recent idea that a laptop needs to be as thin and light as an envelope to be "mobile". Weight is hardly a big differentiator for MacBook Pros, as I understand it. The difference in weight between the ThinkPad T420, which the grandparent mentions, and the latest 15" MacBook Pro isn't that great: they weigh 4.9 lb (2.24 kg) and 4.5 pounds (2.06 kg) respectively according to the official specs. I suppo…

Exactly, this idea that Apple have sacrificed things like useful ports and useful heat vents, for mobility, it's just flat out wrong. They have sacrificed those things yes, but not for mobility, for looking pretty.

Re: Why I Drilled Holes in My MacBook Pro and Put It in the Oven

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Post by madawan »

sokoloff wrote: post #96
oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #49

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Well, as a consumer rather than a phone manufacturer, I certainly appreciate living in the EU. For a several-hundred-€ phone to not be expected to last two years is a pretty depressing position.

It also probably keeps you from being able to buy a €20 phone. There are trade-offs in nearly anything.

What are you talking about? I can get a €20 Samsung in any place that still sells dumbphones. I got a €30 Nokia 5 years ago and it still works splendid.

Re: Why I Drilled Holes in My MacBook Pro and Put It in the Oven

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Post by stefantalpalaru »

gnarbarian wrote: post #91
stefantalpalaru wrote: post #77

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Who are you to tell somebody else to stop posting in a public forum? No, putting "please" in front does not make your aggression any less impolite.

It's very passive aggressive but it seemed to work, he said that and 10 minutes later half my comments on this page dropped from +4 to -4.

There are people/bots that will go through your comment history and downvote all your recent comments when you piss off the wrong users.

Re: Why I Drilled Holes in My MacBook Pro and Put It in the Oven

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Post by k-mcgrady »

delsalk wrote: post #44
k-mcgrady wrote: post #34

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EU provides 6 years but not from the manufacturer - from the seller. I actually had a problem where Apple told me my manufacturer warranty was up and explained I still had 6 years from the seller (Vodafone) and to go to them. Vodafone pretended the law didn't exist. Eventually Apple were kind enough to replace the device even though they had no obligation to.

I wonder how that applies when you purchase something from an Apple Store, since that means they're both. I remember seeing a page on the Apple website listing info for extended warranties in EU member countries, which I assume this specific defect in the 2011 Macbooks is covered by.

If you purchase it from the Apple store they provide the 6 years (the genius told me this).

Re: Why I Drilled Holes in My MacBook Pro and Put It in the Oven

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Post by k-mcgrady »

merrua wrote: post #50
k-mcgrady wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

EU provides 6 years but not from the manufacturer - from the seller. I actually had a problem where Apple told me my manufacturer warranty was up and explained I still had 6 years from the seller (Vodafone) and to go to them. Vodafone pretended the law didn't exist. Eventually Apple were kind enough to replace the device even though they had no obligation to.

Vodafone and rubbish customer service sure tend to go together.

I've been with almost all UK phone companies (I used to buy a new iPhone each year for dev reasons but run simultaneous 2 year contracts meaning I had to be with two phone companies at a time) and they are all terrible.

Re: Why I Drilled Holes in My MacBook Pro and Put It in the Oven

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Post by dzhiurgis »

Looks like the real issue is lack of cleaning the dust once a year.

Apple normally 'does not mind' if you open the case. Obviously you have to know what you are doing, hence the special screws. If you know what you are doing, you'll find where to spend $1 to get the correct screw driver.

Re: Why I Drilled Holes in My MacBook Pro and Put It in the Oven

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Post by IgorPartola »

petercooper wrote: post #13

One time I saw it climb as high as 102º C—hot enough to boil water. If doing anything slightly intensive, my 15" MBPR is the same; I've had it hover at 100-105C for periods. Why not scale down the CPU at crazy temperatures? Intel CPUs have a cutout, but the entire machine needs a more gradual solution. Running at 90C+ is not viable long term. Now it's over 2 years old, I might just buy a entry level MBP instead rathe…

Not to try to convince you to get something different, but FWIW there are more differences in the MBP and MBA lineup than just CPU and GPU. For me, the two major factors were RAM amount (couldn't get 16 GB's with anything but MBP 15" at the time), and ability to hook up multiple external displays. My current setup is the laptop screen + two external displays. At least as of a year ago MBA's and 13" MBP's could do this. At best, you could drive two external displays with a 13" MBP (but not its own screen). USB video cards are a solution, but consider that they drive CPU usage through the roof unless you are staring at a very static screen. I used to use one of these to display my terminal. Then one day I put the browser on this screen and was checking GMail when I heard my laptop basically lift off the desk from the heat and speed of the fans.
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