"that’s how I saved my MacBook Pro with a drill and an oven."
Alternate ending sentence: "So that's how I ruined my MBP with duct-tape-level thermal reengineering! Thermal resistance, wazzat?"
Why I Drilled Holes in My MacBook Pro and Put It in the Oven
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, as a consumer rather than a phone manufacturer, I certainly appreciate living in the EU. For a several-hundred-€ phone to not be expected to last two years is a pretty depressing position.
It also probably keeps you from being able to buy a €20 phone. There are trade-offs in nearly anything.
If you're talking about smartphones, no smartphone is really that cheap. They get you later.
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#113I have question related to this issue. Which MacBook model, new, refurbished or used, should I buy if I want it to last as long as possible and be useful for doing OS X-specific programming tasks?
Anecdotal, but I've bought refurbished stuff a couple times and had to repeatedly replace logic boards and other parts. I probably wouldn't do that again.
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Where else can one put air vents on a laptop? The sides are taken up by expansion ports and speakers. The front is blocked by the battery. The bottom is often obstructed by blankets, clothing, etc. The top is for the keyboard, trackpad, and palm rest. Putting vents at the hinge actually makes the most sense. It guarantees ventilation ports won't be fully obstructed. The vents face away from the user, reducing fan noi…
The original eeepc uses the keyboard as heatsink.
Thanks for pointing this out; I used the original EeePC for a long time but could only remember that I had had a laptop where the heat exhausted through the keyboard, not which model. Interesting but once it really started to kick up, this may not actually be a good option.
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've always hoped we'd move to a 0-100 scale where the scale is the temperatures people can relate to. 0 is cold, 100 is hot. How hot is 100? Same as 100 farenheit. We know that's hot. How cold is cold? Same as 0 celsius, we know that's cold. Of course, for science and cooking we need more dynamic range, which F and C work well for, but just for our daily experience, we need something new.
> I've always hoped we'd move to a 0-100 scale where the scale is the temperatures people can relate to. That's exactly what Celsius is, except it pegs 0 and 100 at non-arbitrary temperatures that are both scientifically precise and exceptionally relevant to everyday use.
Hell, let's all use Kelvins.
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#116One time I saw it climb as high as 102º C—hot enough to boil water. If doing anything slightly intensive, my 15" MBPR is the same; I've had it hover at 100-105C for periods. Why not scale down the CPU at crazy temperatures? Intel CPUs have a cutout, but the entire machine needs a more gradual solution. Running at 90C+ is not viable long term. Now it's over 2 years old, I might just buy a entry level MBP instead rathe…
Actually it's my understanding that they are all essentially the same chip cut from the same dye. What differentiates the chips with the higher clock speed from hose with the lower speeds is that they heat up less quickly during testing and were therefore able to be clocked higher for sale.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
It also probably keeps you from being able to buy a €20 phone. There are trade-offs in nearly anything.
If you're talking about smartphones, no smartphone is really that cheap. They get you later.
They're talking about brick phones. I don't agree with them but since you're confused, others might be.
EDIT:Weirdly decided OP was a man... fixed.
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is that part of the EU wide protection places like the UK, Germany, etc also get or something specific to your country?
EU provides 6 years but not from the manufacturer - from the seller. I actually had a problem where Apple told me my manufacturer warranty was up and explained I still had 6 years from the seller (Vodafone) and to go to them. Vodafone pretended the law didn't exist. Eventually Apple were kind enough to replace the device even though they had no obligation to.
EU provides 6 years? How so?
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
Where else can one put air vents on a laptop? The sides are taken up by expansion ports and speakers. The front is blocked by the battery. The bottom is often obstructed by blankets, clothing, etc. The top is for the keyboard, trackpad, and palm rest. Putting vents at the hinge actually makes the most sense. It guarantees ventilation ports won't be fully obstructed. The vents face away from the user, reducing fan noi…
My Thinkpad has air vents on the left hand side, and also on the back. Except, the ones on the back aren't blocked like they are on Macbooks, because the Thinkpads design is based on what is sensible rather than on what will make the thinnest possible computer.
My T410 has vents on the bottom and on the left side.
So, when it's on my lap it doesn't get enough airflow and burns my leg.
So much for 'sensible' design.
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
It also probably keeps you from being able to buy a €20 phone. There are trade-offs in nearly anything.
What are you talking about? I can get a €20 Samsung in any place that still sells dumbphones. I got a €30 Nokia 5 years ago and it still works splendid.
This is what drives me insane about the state of modern electronic device quality. It seems the less you pay, the longer it lasts. This is completely the opposite of how it is with traditional goods like furniture, utensils, tools, and so on. Maybe it's over-engineering, maybe it's forced obsolescence, maybe it's something beyond my comprehension. But it stinks.