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I'm Michelle (the girl in the video). This thread is really fascinating to me. I'll add some more details to the discussion below. I was diagnosed with epicodylitis (tennis albow) and I tried a range of different treatments: electrical therapy, accipunture, anti-inflammatory tablets and some kind of light therapy(?) But without any results (probably why I can't remember the last treatment). Also notised there were so…

Is tennis elbow the only problem? Do you do anything else to help with the pain? Are there any other tools that you use?

Re: Look, no hands

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Also worth taking a look:

"The Association of Mouth and Foot Painting Artists of the World"

http://www.vdmfk.com/worldwide/en.html

"VDMFK supports and promotes artists who, due to disability or disease, cannot create their works of art with their hands, but have to use their mouths or their feet."

Re: Look, no hands

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post #69

I'm Michelle (the girl in the video). This thread is really fascinating to me. I'll add some more details to the discussion below. I was diagnosed with epicodylitis (tennis albow) and I tried a range of different treatments: electrical therapy, accipunture, anti-inflammatory tablets and some kind of light therapy(?) But without any results (probably why I can't remember the last treatment). Also notised there were so…

Have your arms recovered?

Re: Look, no hands

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Beyond the obviously admirable content of the story, just wanted to say: beautiful website, the pacing of the story was really well done. Loved the animations, the optional extra reading, breaking up the story with pictures. Very simplistic but well done.

Re: Look, no hands

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File in the "for what its worth" file: When I started to get some pain in my wrists, I noticed it most when I was using photoshop and clicking a great deal. I tore apart an old USB mouse and wired a pair of foot switches in so I could click with my feet as well. It helped quite a bit. Now I rather prefer it, especially the right click action.

That's a really fun idea. I wonder how you could control programs differently with 2 or even 4 input devices?

Ie, twin cursors on the screen, each controlled by a separate mouse? Tablets introduced a number of interesting new interface mechanisms - double tap, pinch, stretch etc. Could we bring these to non touch-screens?

Re: Look, no hands

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To me the most important factor is how relaxed your muscles are when working. That is, even while frantically typing on my keyboard my fingers spend most of their time resting. It's very easy to keep your muscle contracted the entire time and that's where the danger is. This is something I learned from my music teachers. I would get nervous while playing and my muscles would get all stiff leading to missed notes and…

RSI can be caused by many things, and it can originate far from the pain. There doesn't seem to be one magical fix. I've been keeping Emacs org notes on RSI and I publish them here: http://thespanishsite.com/public_html/org/ergo/rsi.html

I haven't read through all of your notes, but did click on a few links. I've studied a bit of nutritional medicine along the way. Have you looked at any research or anecdotes on anti-inflammatory supplements for RSI?

Any irritated condition is characterised by inflammation. The most common medicines prescribed for RSI are anti-inflammatories. So it stands to reason that RSI is tissue-damage, caused by repetitive strain, and anywhere tissue damage is occurring immune mediated inflammation takes place.

Tenosynovitis is inflammation of the fluid-filled sheath that surrounds a tendon.[1]

So, the treatment we were taught was to address the physical injury by removing, retraining, or engineering the problem away, then give nutritional supplements that support tissue repair and help down-modulate the inflammatory response: Omega 3 EPA / DHA (fish oils), Quercetin, Rutin, Vitamin C, Bromelain, B12 & Folate, Magnesium (as citrate or diglycinate, or both), plus Turmeric and Ginger. And also give supplements that target musculoskeletal / connective tissues: Silica, proline, lysine, cysteine, glutamine, Manganese, B5, B6, Iron (as iron amino acid chelate), copper, zinc (as amino acid chelate). Where the condition has progressed to considerable over-all wear and tear of a join the also throw in Glucosamine and Chondroitin.

The theory goes: remove the mechanical cause of the condition (repetitive strain causing tissue damage) and the condition will resolve itself. Put in the nutrients the body needs to repair the damage and the condition will improve faster. Sometimes the damage is so far progressed it will respond much better if the nutrients are taken too.

Once the condition is under control we then direct the patient to look in to seeking advice to strengthen the affected joint.

I don't know about the state of nutritional medicine outside of Australia, but here we have some really good formulations available off the shelf and others as practitioner only formulas - so you need a consult.

I'll pre-empt the "supplements don't work" argument and say: yes, taking iron oxide or magnesium oxide doesn't do anything. There are formulations that are poorly absorb and poorly utilised by the body. Have a look in to, for example, magnesium diglycinate and magnesium citrate vs. magnesium oxide. Look in to mixed ascorbates with citrus bioflavanoids (Quercetin and Rutin) vs. pure Ascorbic Acid. High does Turmeric and Ginger work so well as anti-inflammatories and blood thinners they are contra-indicated if a person is taking blood thinners / blood pressure medication, eg Warfarin.

Anyway, getting carried away. Thought you might be interested.

1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenosynovitis

This does not constitute medical advice. Please consult your physician / nutritionist / pharmacist before taking any nutritional or herbal supplements.

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Sincerely... all I can think about is not that she found a good solution to her problem, but the fact that she "achieved the same level of accuracy" (and I suppose speed). This is not something about her capabilities, but about the limitation of current input devices regarding our hands. This is the proof that using a touch pad with your nose is not worse that using it with your hand. There is something wrong in this…

Bingo :)

Re: Look, no hands

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post #69

I'm Michelle (the girl in the video). This thread is really fascinating to me. I'll add some more details to the discussion below. I was diagnosed with epicodylitis (tennis albow) and I tried a range of different treatments: electrical therapy, accipunture, anti-inflammatory tablets and some kind of light therapy(?) But without any results (probably why I can't remember the last treatment). Also notised there were so…

Amazing story.

Necessity is the mother of invention.

I use crazy input devices on crazy ways too. Magic trackpad and a 3d connection 3d mouse on a TV arm screwed to the wall along the computer screen so I can work standing up or with a stool.

A a lap-along wearable stenotype device instead of keyboard. Speech recognition for other things.

I can work much better, more comfortable and faster than anybody else after years of training.

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Beautiful maybe, but in my opinion, multiple columns for continuous text makes for a bad UX. I've seen this starting to popup in a few websites recently and it always annoys me.

On my tablet it does look good-ish, with two columns, but still, two columns..

Multiple columns would be fine if the page scrolled horizontally, or if all the content fit nicely on one screen and didn't need to be scrolled vertically, but having columns with vertical scrolling just breaks how I typically read websites.

Typically when reading something on the web I scroll as I go which means that when I get to the end of column one it's in about the middle of the screen. Now I need to scroll back in the opposite direction because the top of column 2 is now off the screen and then read back down again.

It really breaks the flow of reading.

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