Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

Post by vladimirv » Sat, Dec 27, 2014, 1:44 AM UTC

jedberg wrote: post #129

alexggordon wrote: post #95

I'm always a little bit fascinated by these sorts of attacks. On one hand, I guess I understand (yet don't condone) the motivation for the 'vigilante' justice they're trying to do. On the other, I really don't understand what benefit you can get from attacking Xbox, then Sony, and finally Tor. When I think of the people doing this, I tend to think of them as understanding the importance of Tor and the benefit of anon…

> I really don't understand any logical reason for this happening, Maybe it is the federal government trying to bolster their case for stronger control of the internet with a false flag operation. For the record I'm not a conspiracy nut, but at the same time, given what we know about our government now and in the past, I can't completely dismiss the possibility.

Post by sangel10 » Sat, Dec 27, 2014, 2:22 AM UTC

Yhippa wrote: post #125

alexggordon wrote: post #95

I'm always a little bit fascinated by these sorts of attacks. On one hand, I guess I understand (yet don't condone) the motivation for the 'vigilante' justice they're trying to do. On the other, I really don't understand what benefit you can get from attacking Xbox, then Sony, and finally Tor. When I think of the people doing this, I tend to think of them as understanding the importance of Tor and the benefit of anon…

Apparently Kim Dotcom gave them 3,000 MegaUpload accounts to stop. After that they claim to have halted the attacks. They have somewhat of an incentive now to DDoS internet services and wait to see if someone will give them goodies in exchange to stop this. https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/548305704776241152

Post by mrobot » Sat, Dec 27, 2014, 2:45 AM UTC

lbenes wrote: post #132

rcamera wrote: post #48

Tor Devs haven't made any announcement yet, there is, however, a discussion about it on the mailing list: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2014-Decembe... If you use Tor, I would follow the suggestion by another member of the mailing list [1], simply add to your torrc file: ExcludeNodes US StrictNodes 1 That will disallow using any US nodes, which works since all of LizardNSA's nodes are currently in t…

UPDATE: "But even though they are running thousands of new relays, their relays currently make up less than 1% of the Tor network by capacity. We are working now to remove these relays from the network before they become a threat, and we don't expect any anonymity or performance effects based on what we've seen so far." So hopefully this gets nipped in the trollish bud before anonymity is affected." http://gizmodo.co…

Post by jdong » Sat, Dec 27, 2014, 4:05 AM UTC

simias wrote: post #44

jacquesm wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Calling them script kiddies is not productive either. They're hackers by the now commonly accepted definition as used in the media. That ship sailed ages ago, but if you want to bicker about what to call them the correct term is probably something along the lines of cyber criminals.

I don't usually care for the meaning of "hacker" (tinkerer or pirate) but in this case calling them "hacker", even in the mainstream meaning of the word is giving them too much credit. They're not hacking anything any more that 4chan users "hack" websites by flooding them, there's no "hack" involved in any meaning of the word. I'm sure they love being called "hackers" by the media. So yeah, I'm definitely in favor of…

Post by SW0gR2F5IElSTA » Sat, Dec 27, 2014, 4:30 AM UTC

jedberg wrote: post #129

alexggordon wrote: post #95

I'm always a little bit fascinated by these sorts of attacks. On one hand, I guess I understand (yet don't condone) the motivation for the 'vigilante' justice they're trying to do. On the other, I really don't understand what benefit you can get from attacking Xbox, then Sony, and finally Tor. When I think of the people doing this, I tend to think of them as understanding the importance of Tor and the benefit of anon…

> I really don't understand any logical reason for this happening, Maybe it is the federal government trying to bolster their case for stronger control of the internet with a false flag operation. For the record I'm not a conspiracy nut, but at the same time, given what we know about our government now and in the past, I can't completely dismiss the possibility.