The performance is ok for me (Air 2011).A bit slower but stable so far.
UI Performance Decline – OS X Tiger to Yosemite [video]
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Re: UI Performance Decline – OS X Tiger to Yosemite [video]
#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't even understand who they're competing with by doing yearly updates. It's probably a big scramble to get features released and for what? To beat Windows 8? To beat linux? They don't have any threats when it comes to desktop operating systems, so they should slow down and make some quality updates.
It keeps the size of each update much smaller and less error-prone. Each update contains a few significant changes and lots of minor ones. It's a good strategy for a variety of reasons: - it lets the OS theming feel fresh on a regular basis - it lets apple break/disable bad apps that have entered the ecosystem - it keeps all the OSS binaries more in sync with the fast-paced OSS world. - it lets the actual periodic se…
> it lets apple break/disable bad apps that have entered the ecosystem
You can easily do that with patches and blacklists.
> it keeps all the OSS binaries more in sync with the fast-paced OSS world.
That's hilarious, sorry. Nobody who cares for "OSS binaries" uses anything shipped by Apple -- we all use Homebrew and equivalents, because anything shipped by Apple is invariably ancient.
> Try loading Windows 8 and you immediately have over 200 critical hotfixes that take nearly a day to download and install on 2 year old hardware.
That can be easily solved with release-specific service packs, and it's not an excuse to wreck the entire UI.
> Each release contains the byproduct of massive amounts of research/data.
Such "massive" research, if it's anything remotely valuable, doesn't change every 12 months. You don't have breakthroughs in UI design every 12 months.
You know what changes every 12 months? Fashion.
Re: UI Performance Decline – OS X Tiger to Yosemite [video]
#123The decline started with Lion. Snow Leopard was the pinnacle of the OS. They were able to offset or mask some of this with SSD drives. But, it has become pretty sloppy for folks that really wanted to tune their systems for performance. Couple that with the questionable changes on the UI over the last couple major releases and I didn't see anything I wanted anymore.
Lion was also the OS where they started cutting out core functionality (e.g. the ACPI controller) from their open source releases.
Re: UI Performance Decline – OS X Tiger to Yosemite [video]
#124Also, this is part of the final build? https://d262ilb51hltx0.cloudfront.net/max/800/1*EdAxsHqdZmZ7... Really, this bug was reported in the original beta, 6 months ago!
I think that only happens when UI transparency is disabled. I don't have the same issue[0]. I find Yosemite to be fine with a few exceptions, Safari is not as fast as I'd like it to be, and I've had issues when attempting to answer the phone on my laptop. I think Apple needs a Snow Yosemite, where they focus on fixes and performance with minimal new features. [0]: http://imgur.com/KIIbsfr
Yes, it only appears in "reduced transparency" mode, but that's no excuse. Again, this is a well reported bug that many people have noticed 6 months ago and it would take an Apple intern 20 minutes (maybe an hour if they were very inapt) to locate and fix the issue. It's just not a priority to them. I really wish that they would switch to a 2 year OS release cycle, and work harder on stability of the core OS. They can pull Messenger, Mail, Facetime, and all the other apps out of the OS package, and add features to those all they want, but I want the core OS to be stable.
Re: UI Performance Decline – OS X Tiger to Yosemite [video]
#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
>it lets the OS theming feel fresh on a regular basis I doubt they will be making significant changes every year. 2014 was the exception >it keeps all the OSS binaries more in sync with the fast-paced OSS world Too many key utilities are extremely outdated due to GPL3. Apple also seems to be moving away from free software wherever it can >Each release contains the byproduct of massive amounts of research/data. They s…
Away from Free Software™, yes. Away from open-source software? Not at all. The MIT/BSD-licenced parts of OSX get updated all the time.
MIT/BSD is free software too. What they're moving away from is copyleft.
Re: UI Performance Decline – OS X Tiger to Yosemite [video]
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
I recommend running Linux (any stable distro) with Xfce. It's worked/looked exactly the same for years[0], and there won't be any sudden/unpleasant changes in the future either. 0: http://xfce.org/about/screenshots
While I'm (we're) critical of the regressions when it comes to UI performance, switching to linux means giving up an entire ecosystem of apps, completely changing workflows, and in some cases depending on the kind of development that one does, making our jobs impossible.
That's why for me Linux is the only sensible choice of platforms. All the other platforms means giving complete control over my tools to a single company.
Re: UI Performance Decline – OS X Tiger to Yosemite [video]
#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm at my wits end with Yosemite. I'm very seriously considering switching to Linux or Windows. Of the numerous problems this OS has, my biggest problem is waking my rMBP from sleep. About 20% of the time, it just doesn't wake up and requires a hard shutdown. I never had that problem with Mountain Lion or Mavericks.
Go to "System Preferences - Accessibility" and enable "Differentiate without Color" and "Reduce Transparency". Made a world of a difference to me, and I no longer think about Mountain Lion.
Even "Reduce Transparency" has a nice big graphical glitch:
https://twitter.com/Doomlaser/status/538539277978972160
Yosemite breaks rounded rect corners in UI overlays, like the ones triggered by volume and brightness changes. The masking is broken when the translucent blur shaders aren't applied.
You'd think that'd something they would easily catch in QA before 10.10 shipped, but it's still broken even in 10.10.1.
Re: UI Performance Decline – OS X Tiger to Yosemite [video]
#128After Mavericks I swore I would wait to upgrade until the second patch of the next os. So I'm sitting here on Mavericks waiting for 10.10.2 to drop.
If you slightly shift your upgrade schedule you're only 3 or 4 months behind. No big deal.
Re: UI Performance Decline – OS X Tiger to Yosemite [video]
#129Yeah. Just look at this menu bar when switching focus from internal Retina display to external non-Retina ATD. http://cl.ly/2W172H0l3s0z
This bugs the hell out of me.
Not so long ago I grabbed myself a G4 MDD with 768M of RAM — it was much more responsible in terms of UI. 3-4 browser tabs slowed it down though, while my current rMBP13" from 2012 works ok with a lot more.
Re: UI Performance Decline – OS X Tiger to Yosemite [video]
#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
Remember iOS 7? Same thing. Who was the joker who kept insisting that iOS 7 was really better and very few complained? I warned about this, post-Jobs Apple design and attention to detail.
> Who was the joker who kept insisting that iOS 7 was really better and very few complained? The majority of the population?
Just like you'll deny that people are complaining about Yosemite