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Pinboard's New Pricing Policy
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Re: Pinboard's New Pricing Policy
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're not the potential client then, everything is OK. He can run his business how he likes it, and that includes his decision not to target the maximum possible number of free users.
You are right, I'm not the potential client but damn I would like to use this. I'm lucky only a minimal part of all web services use this pricing system.
> There's a huge psychological barrier when buying things like this one. Even if it costed $0.99.
> damn I would like to use this.
It seems then the barrier isn't actually psychological? Do you live in the country which makes the electronic payments impossible? Is it really expensive for you to pay for some service you like only once?
Re: Pinboard's New Pricing Policy
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
> In particular, all of your bookmarks will certainly be analyzed on Yahoo servers. Whereas I trust Maciej not to perform experiments on random people's bookmarks. Well, there is this blog entry from August: Researching Link Rot "This week I'll be running a little experiment in link rot,in preparation for an upcoming conference talk" https://blog.pinboard.in/2014/08/researching_link_rot/
Which includes this paragraph: "If you are uncomfortable with this research and wish to opt out, please email me with your username, and I'll keep your bookmarks out of the pool. If you have questions, ask me on Twitter or email me privately, and I'll be happy to answer them."
While there's only so much privacy you can technically expect from an operator of a web data storage service, I think being upset about an opt-out study - announced only via blog and twitter - that would benefit the operator personally and users almost not at all isn't really unreasonable.
Edit after downvote: I use Pinboard and like it, think Maciej is a fantastic guy, and don't personally have problems with this study, but come on guys. He'll be alright with some dissent.
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#84My main issue with Pinboard is that it doesn't autofill all of your tags if you have a large number of them. This is why I've ended up stuck with Delicious, which does do so. A shame, as other than that Pinboard is a superior service. But tag autocomplete on my complete list of tags is a deal-breaker for me.
If you use the Pinboard bookmarklet, there is autocomplete functionality that works just fine.
Re: Pinboard's New Pricing Policy
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
I find a simple webpage to be a better UI for bookmarks than the browser dropdown maze. I suppose it matters how you use bookmarks. If you use them to go to the same sites all of the time (something that I do not do) then I suppose having your common sites in a single drop-down is nicer. Although you could have a tag in Pinboard and make that your homepage. What I use Pinboard for is bookmarking interesting articles…
You don't need to use the dropdown, you can open the bookmarks panel that shows a list and a search box. In Firefox, you can even make it your homepage, just set it to: chrome://browser/content/bookmarks/bookmarksPanel.xul
I don't see how that interface is nearly as good as Pinboard's. I guess we just have different tastes.
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#86> An astonishing number of people already believe that they're paying annually for Pinboard. I've always wondered about this. The subscription model is so ingrained nowadays that I cannot think of any other web service of any kind which uses a one-time fee.
It’s definitely worth thinking about customers’ preconceptions in this area even if you do run a subscription service.
Ours charges monthly, but the current month is the limit of any normal customer’s commitment. The first time we went out to an exhibition and met some prospective customers face-to-face, a disturbing proportion of them had assumed that because we charge monthly, we must have some minimum lock-in period of a year or more, like their mobile phone plan or broadband contract.
This expectation that they had missed the long term lock-in somewhere in the small print was clearly costing us potential subscribers, even though our site simply said the price was X/month. If memory serves, we converted at least a couple of people on the spot as soon as we confirmed that this was not the case.
Re: Pinboard's New Pricing Policy
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is what I use Evernote for. Why do you like Pinboard better? (Not challenging--actually curious. I've never used Pinboard.)
I try to like Evernote, especially because I read a lot of PDF papers and annotated screen shots are nice, but I have 3000+ Pinboard bookmarks because they are just much, much easier and faster to create than Evernote notes. I didn't understand what the fuss was about with Delicious and (later) Pinboard, and didn't start using Pinboard in earnest until a year or so ago, but now that I've got archiving running and ful…
Thanks. I use the Evernote "clipper" extension in my browsers, which lets me save either the URL, the article content, or the full web page to Evernote. I can tag them, and edit the text to include additional info (one frequent addition--a link to the HN discussion of that article).
I'm sort of in similar shoes in that I've been doing this for a while, so I've got hundreds of saved pages and dozens of tags in Evernote. So I feel like Pinboard would need to be much better to overcome that inertia.
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#88I like Pinboard.in, but hate the gushing fanboy-ism on Hacker News. It's almost embarrassing to read. There are many other good bookmarking services. Pinboard is one of them. Stop treating it like its a religion.
I would be delighted to hear about other good bookmarking services. And I am a potential customer seeing as how I currently pay pinboard for archiving even though I don't really care about archiving - I just want to be sure that it is profitable. I have looked at (and used) delicious and find it to be substantially inferior. So, can you recommend some competitors?
I'll bite :) Try http://mojaveapp.com It's something me and two other devs have been building.
Re: Pinboard's New Pricing Policy
#89My main issue with Pinboard is that it doesn't autofill all of your tags if you have a large number of them. This is why I've ended up stuck with Delicious, which does do so. A shame, as other than that Pinboard is a superior service. But tag autocomplete on my complete list of tags is a deal-breaker for me.
If you use the Pinboard bookmarklet, there is autocomplete functionality that works just fine.
Nope. It has a maximum number of tags that it will use for autocompletion. If you have a couple of thousand tags then it only uses the most popular ones.
Re: Pinboard's New Pricing Policy
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is actually the archiving that is the main benefit of Pinboard. Then tagging and commenting the links for yourself, in order make it easier for you to find it later. The goal is to keep there more than what you'd bookmark. The bookmark is for me "I expect I'll be visiting this often." The link in Pinboard is "my archive of the stuff I've once read on the web that I can need later to refer to, in the state it was a…
This is what I use Evernote for. Why do you like Pinboard better? (Not challenging--actually curious. I've never used Pinboard.)
evernote has a long history of data just magically dissapearing