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Re: Pinboard's New Pricing Policy

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Post by acqq »

snowwrestler wrote: post #69
acqq wrote: post #65

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It is actually the archiving that is the main benefit of Pinboard. Then tagging and commenting the links for yourself, in order make it easier for you to find it later. The goal is to keep there more than what you'd bookmark. The bookmark is for me "I expect I'll be visiting this often." The link in Pinboard is "my archive of the stuff I've once read on the web that I can need later to refer to, in the state it was a…

This is what I use Evernote for. Why do you like Pinboard better? (Not challenging--actually curious. I've never used Pinboard.)

I've never used Evernote but from their web site, it's a quite different service, Evernote is more like kind-of Google docs than what the Pinboard is (the "social bookmarking for the introverts" with the automatic archiving of the content behind the links).

Evernote premium is 5 EUR per month, that makes 60 EUR per year, v.s. cca 20 EUR per year for Pinboard Archive.

And Pinboard is much more minimalistic, and I like that: it doesn't force me to "install the apps" or whatever. I add the bookmarklet and I visit the Pinboard site, that's enough for all the devices I have.

Re: Pinboard's New Pricing Policy

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Post by bsg75 »

jlarocco wrote: post #66
drsintoma wrote: post #14

Can someone give me some hints about pinboard's advantages over, lets say, delicious? I know people love it over here but from what I've read it seems to be more about the openness of the creator that the product itself.

I've been using Pinboard since 2011. I switched from Delicious after Yahoo started screwing it up. The things I like about Pinboard: The UI is simple, intuitive, and works on my computers, my iPad, my phone, etc. It doesn't do a million other things and lose focus on bookmarking. It doesn't integrate with Facebook, Google+, Twitter, and the rest. It doesn't rollout new changes every other week. I'm not worried about…

> It doesn't integrate with Facebook, Google+, Twitter, and the rest.

You can link a Twitter account, for one advantage of using the Twitter favorite mechanism to automatically bookmark (optionally archive) in Pinboard from any Twitter client.

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Post by morgante »

jarek wrote: post #53
eli wrote: post #51

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That feels like a fairly abstract benefit

— Delicious users, circa '07 Though certainly if you don't mind switching services every three or five years it's a smaller factor.

Delicious is still around and great. I honestly don't get the constant criticism. I've been able to use it without problem for almost a decade now.

Re: Pinboard's New Pricing Policy

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Post by AndrewDucker »

My main issue with Pinboard is that it doesn't autofill all of your tags if you have a large number of them.

This is why I've ended up stuck with Delicious, which does do so. A shame, as other than that Pinboard is a superior service. But tag autocomplete on my complete list of tags is a deal-breaker for me.

Re: Pinboard's New Pricing Policy

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Post by acqq »

mahouse wrote: post #29
sillysaurus3 wrote: post #27

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I'd stop using it instantly. EDIT: Wow. Apparently a bunch of other people would, too. A pizza costs, what, $18? Pinboard is $11/year.

There's a huge psychological barrier when buying things like this one. Even if it costed $0.99. (Think about apps.)

You're not the potential client then, everything is OK. He can run his business how he likes it, and that includes his decision not to target the maximum possible number of free users.

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Post by kstrauser »

fmavituna wrote: post #45
sillysaurus3 wrote: post #9

I still can't figure out whether Pinboard is insane or genius for pricing it at ~$10/lifetime (or in this case $11/year). I've paid Dropbox about $480 now, and it's easily that valuable. But the amount of value I've derived from Pinboard is comparable. The value is "You'll never lose this note, idea, or tool ever again in your entire life. Even if it goes offline, you'll still have a starting point for remembering th…

A Pinboard user here. When I signed up I hoped there would be nice browser integration but it's just not there. UX for me is just rubbish compared to native bookmarking or to even old delicious extensions. Honest question, why Pinboard is any better than using integrated Chrome bookmarks sync feature? (ignoring the archive feature of Pinboard)

One thing I've loved is that many iPhone Twitter and news apps have had Pinboard integration for ages. See something cool on Flipboard, tap a couple of buttons, and have it in my saved links later when I'm at my laptop. Pinboard actually goes one better with its Twitter integration: if I star a tweet, it gets saved to Pinboard. With all these sources, I use Pinboard as an inbox for everything I want to read later.

With iOS 8's share sheet extensions and a great native client that supports the feature, I can do this with almost all iPhone apps that don't already directly support Pinboard.

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Post by Touche »

fmavituna wrote: post #45
sillysaurus3 wrote: post #9

I still can't figure out whether Pinboard is insane or genius for pricing it at ~$10/lifetime (or in this case $11/year). I've paid Dropbox about $480 now, and it's easily that valuable. But the amount of value I've derived from Pinboard is comparable. The value is "You'll never lose this note, idea, or tool ever again in your entire life. Even if it goes offline, you'll still have a starting point for remembering th…

A Pinboard user here. When I signed up I hoped there would be nice browser integration but it's just not there. UX for me is just rubbish compared to native bookmarking or to even old delicious extensions. Honest question, why Pinboard is any better than using integrated Chrome bookmarks sync feature? (ignoring the archive feature of Pinboard)

I find a simple webpage to be a better UI for bookmarks than the browser dropdown maze. I suppose it matters how you use bookmarks. If you use them to go to the same sites all of the time (something that I do not do) then I suppose having your common sites in a single drop-down is nicer. Although you could have a tag in Pinboard and make that your homepage.

What I use Pinboard for is bookmarking interesting articles I want to read later, recipes I want to try later, websites that are awesome but I want to visit infrequently etc. and the simple interface of Pinboard is perfect for that, imo.

Re: Pinboard's New Pricing Policy

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Post by icebraining »

Touche wrote: post #77
fmavituna wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A Pinboard user here. When I signed up I hoped there would be nice browser integration but it's just not there. UX for me is just rubbish compared to native bookmarking or to even old delicious extensions. Honest question, why Pinboard is any better than using integrated Chrome bookmarks sync feature? (ignoring the archive feature of Pinboard)

I find a simple webpage to be a better UI for bookmarks than the browser dropdown maze. I suppose it matters how you use bookmarks. If you use them to go to the same sites all of the time (something that I do not do) then I suppose having your common sites in a single drop-down is nicer. Although you could have a tag in Pinboard and make that your homepage. What I use Pinboard for is bookmarking interesting articles…

You don't need to use the dropdown, you can open the bookmarks panel that shows a list and a search box.

In Firefox, you can even make it your homepage, just set it to: chrome://browser/content/bookmarks/bookmarksPanel.xul

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Post by mst »

accolade wrote: post #42
mcherm wrote: post #38

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I would be delighted to hear about other good bookmarking services. And I am a potential customer seeing as how I currently pay pinboard for archiving even though I don't really care about archiving - I just want to be sure that it is profitable. I have looked at (and used) delicious and find it to be substantially inferior. So, can you recommend some competitors?

Pocket has become habitual for me. It saves and archives my articles and it's ubiquitous on every platform. Flipboard is also surprisingly good. Other options are Raindrop.io and Dragdis - sort of the same, sort of different. I like Pinboard BTW... I like it less because of the sucky fanboy-ism on Hacker News though.

People like this thing, so it must be bad!

Are we forgiven if we liked pinboard before it was cool?

Re: Pinboard's New Pricing Policy

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Post by mahouse »

acqq wrote: post #75
mahouse wrote: post #29

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There's a huge psychological barrier when buying things like this one. Even if it costed $0.99. (Think about apps.)

You're not the potential client then, everything is OK. He can run his business how he likes it, and that includes his decision not to target the maximum possible number of free users.

You are right, I'm not the potential client but damn I would like to use this. I'm lucky only a minimal part of all web services use this pricing system.
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