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Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Post by barbs »

674266966223478 wrote: post #177
barbs wrote: post #164

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I'm running Linux Mint and I don't have this problem. Chrome runs pretty well for me.

How is that relevant? It doesn't matter if it works for you. It doesn't work for somebody else, which means there is a problem of some sort.

The discussion is about Google Chrome not working on Linux Mint. I said that Google Chrome works for me on Linux Mint. How is that not relevant?

I'm not saying there's no problem, I'm just offering my experience to demonstrate that perhaps the problem isn't just "Chrome runs poorly on Linux Mint", and to offer a counterexample to "Linux Mint is a buggy mess".

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Post by thejosh »

tszming wrote: post #178

I always joke to my friends that why Chrome didn't bring extension support to Android - Because extension support will hurt Google's mobile ads revenue so deeply if you can install adblock with one click. So, please also consider support a non-profit organization like Mozilla, when their products are actually not weaker.

>non-profit organization

Apart from when they switch existing users settings over to Yahoo by default.

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Post by xgbi »

thejosh wrote: post #194
tszming wrote: post #178

I always joke to my friends that why Chrome didn't bring extension support to Android - Because extension support will hurt Google's mobile ads revenue so deeply if you can install adblock with one click. So, please also consider support a non-profit organization like Mozilla, when their products are actually not weaker.

>non-profit organization Apart from when they switch existing users settings over to Yahoo by default.

It is still non-profit if at the end of the year they have ... no profit. If this move allows them to keep afloat, then I don't see the problem.

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Post by cromwellian »

azakai wrote: post #175
barrkel wrote: post #157

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Benchmarks tell me that Firefox's throughput is better at this point, and I have no reason to doubt it, but I also know from direct experience that variance in performance is far, far higher with Firefox. I don't think I've ever run any asm.js other than demos. PS: I just ran Octane 2.0. The SplayLatency test looks like it's designed to test what I'm talking about; I get 25k in Chrome, but only 9k in FF. http://devel…

Yet in the other latency test in Octane, MandreelLatency, Firefox does about 50% better than Chrome. Perceived performance depends on a lot of things, not just JS speed and consistency - also graphics, UI responsiveness, etc. Chrome has had an advantage in some of those areas, but the difference is pretty small at this point, especially if you are on Firefox Nightly.

Isn't Mandreel just another Emscripten style test that avoids the garbage collector in favor of typed arrays?

I think we definitely need some GC throughput/latency benchmarks in the standard suites.

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Post by cookiecaper »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #123
barrkel wrote: post #80

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It depends on what you want. If you're primarily interested in speedy javascript, process isolation across tabs (so busy tabs don't lock out the UI), or debugging web apps, I think Chrome is better. Chrome in particular seems to have a much smoother JS execution profile; it may be down to GC, or something else, but Chrome generally has fewer frames dropped for any given demo. On the other hand, Firefox is way more fe…

Firefox's JS is pretty speedy too though, and it's faster than Chrome for things compiled with emscripten due to asm.js, like every Humble Mozilla Bundle game, anything made with Unity or Unreal Engine, anything using stuff like sql.js or other C libraries, etc.

I find that Firefox is currently faster for everything except 3D stuff. It may be a driver thing (nvidia on Linux).

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Post by swift »

psychometry wrote: post #121
barrkel wrote: post #80

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It depends on what you want. If you're primarily interested in speedy javascript, process isolation across tabs (so busy tabs don't lock out the UI), or debugging web apps, I think Chrome is better. Chrome in particular seems to have a much smoother JS execution profile; it may be down to GC, or something else, but Chrome generally has fewer frames dropped for any given demo. On the other hand, Firefox is way more fe…

Firefox certainly has a larger library of add-ons and those add-ons are more powerful than ones available from Chrome in terms of customizing the browser. The problem is that once you install all the add-ons you're accustomed to having in Chrome, Firefox slows down enough that it's not even worth it. This was my experience using FirefoxDeveloperEdition for the past month and although I miss Firefox's far superior add…

Which add-ons did you have installed?

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Post by codemac »

mynameisvlad wrote: post #142
npsimons wrote: post #131

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To be perfectly honest, I'm sick of Chrome being pushed down my throat at every turn (including in emacs-w3m; if I'm using emacs-w3m, I'm pretty damn sure I know what Chrome is and I consciously choose not to use it). Yes, I know it's their baby, yes I know it's their SE; but this headline brought a wry smile to my face. Turnabout is fair play :P

I mean, they probably just detect if your user agent is not Chrome. It'd be silly to complicate it further by checking if it's not some relatively obscure thing that's super techy just for the benefit of excluding people that will for sure not use Chrome.

It's literally their job to run relevant advertising.. it's a testament to Google's advertising that we expect better of them.
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