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Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Installing extensions can dramatically slow down browsers. I wonder if the lack of extensions is responsible for the quickness users experience with a fresh install.

That's my biggest reason for switching from AdBlock+ to Privoxy + https://github.com/skroll/privoxy-adblock . Same blocking rules but uses a ton less memory, since each tab isn't running all of AB+ .

That's fine for image and flash ads, but provides no support for CSS blocking of elements. My understanding is that the CSS blocking is the slowest part, too.

Of course, if you don't want that, you're sweet.

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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You don't have to load the site (trivial, but not negligible), throwing a bang in front of an already written search is simpler than rewriting the search, and google doesn't build a profile around you as another entity is doing the search.

another entity is doing the search. What? It redirects your browser to Google, it's you doing the search, not any other entity. They don't proxy or anything.

He means that, for example, "!hn rust" would search hacker news directly for rust, whereas "hacker news rust" on google would do a similar job but via google, informing google of your search.

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Oddly the lack of a decent spam-filter was the reason I left gmail. It had way too many false positives for me, including some very problematic ones. The last straw was when it flagged an email from my landlord as spam, with the explanation that it was flagged because it was written in Danish, a language I don't normally communicate in. It's true that I don't normally write in Danish. But I do live in Denmark, so it…

I've had the opposite experience - demos of hosting mail elsewhere lead to me getting absolutely overwhelmed by spam. I think being a gmail user since it was initially released has given it a really long time to train to the spam I normally receive. Very few false positives too. Maybe one or two a month.

One or two false positives a month? You must have low standards. <1 false positives a year is my threshold. I don't believe that throwing out non-spam emails is acceptable.

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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you can use startpage if you want Google's results with none of the privacy leakage.

I wonder how they got that deal.

They pass your queries through a proxy, so you have to trust startpage, I guess.

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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I've had the opposite experience - demos of hosting mail elsewhere lead to me getting absolutely overwhelmed by spam. I think being a gmail user since it was initially released has given it a really long time to train to the spam I normally receive. Very few false positives too. Maybe one or two a month.

One or two false positives a month? You must have low standards. <1 false positives a year is my threshold. I don't believe that throwing out non-spam emails is acceptable.

Not even remotely realistic, in my experience.

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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post #182

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another entity is doing the search. What? It redirects your browser to Google, it's you doing the search, not any other entity. They don't proxy or anything.

He means that, for example, "!hn rust" would search hacker news directly for rust, whereas "hacker news rust" on google would do a similar job but via google, informing google of your search.

That's definitely not what his comment says. He's quite clearly talking about !g (not other bangs) and saying (incorrectly) that another entity (DDG) is doing the Google search so Google can't build a profile around you.

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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post #55

Too bad their shitty mail service does not play nicely at all with Firefox. Seriously, Yahoo Mail does not even allow me to attach a PDF when I'm in Firefox. There's a raft of other functionality issues which drove me to the decision to migrate 15 years worth of emails out of it.

I use Chrome and occasionally log in to my old Yahoo mail...I can't imagine it's that much better than the experience on Firefox. Half the time the page just randomly decides to cut off the search bar (which I use a lot).

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Generally, the number of clicks isn't the issue. Its knowing which clicks to make.

Sure, but in this case, we're talking about a dropdown marked on the main UI immediately next to the search box. It's not as of it's hidden. Anyone who realizes the search engine has changed is saavy enough to figure out how to change it.

You would be surprised. "Obvious" UI hints that are intuitive for someone like you or me are not for a LOT of people. Some subset of those people is still likely to be able to notice that their searches now take them to a page that says "Yahoo" at the top instead of "Google".

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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I wonder how they got that deal.

They pass your queries through a proxy, so you have to trust startpage, I guess.

No, I mean, I wonder how Startpage got a deal from Google to proxy their results. What's in it for Google?
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