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Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Post by djjose »

fooqux wrote: post #91
notatoad wrote: post #84

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>I'm still not going to use Yahoo search as it's really just Google search Yahoo is a Bing frontend now. Same as DuckDuckGo.

According to https://duck.co/help/results/sources you are incorrect. DuckDuckGo pulls their results from many sources, including bing, Yahoo, and their own bots.

Yahoo hasn't had a search back-end since about the Bing deal. Most everyone on those teams was laid off while they transitioned over. Yahoo BOSS is backed by Bing.

src: http://searchengineland.com/yahoo-boss-moves-from-yahoos-ind...

src2: I worked on the Yahoo Search team at the time of the deal.

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Post by Amezarak »

gtremper wrote: post #153
Amezarak wrote: post #146

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> Despite the browser wars, the newest annoyance is having to use Yahoo's search engine. Have to? Changing the default search engine in Firefox is as simple as clicking on the search-box dropdown and selecting a different search engine. Two clicks.

Generally, the number of clicks isn't the issue. Its knowing which clicks to make.

Sure, but in this case, we're talking about a dropdown marked on the main UI immediately next to the search box. It's not as of it's hidden. Anyone who realizes the search engine has changed is saavy enough to figure out how to change it.

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Post by barbs »

Mikeb85 wrote: post #124
smtddr wrote: post #73

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On my Linux MINT machine, chrome keeps doing something[1] that ends up locking up my whole machine and I have to hard-reboot. It got to a point where I actually had to set up Ctrl+Alt+K to issue "pkill -9 chrome" so as soon as I see the mouse-pointer movement become non-smooth or music start to skip, I slam on those keys to kill chrome before I have to restart my whole machine. Then I just went to Firefox developer e…

Hate to say it, but Linux Mint is a buggy mess. Chrome works fine on the vast majority of Linux distros. Even if a page hangs, Chrome doesn't crash...

I'm running Linux Mint and I don't have this problem. Chrome runs pretty well for me.

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Post by notatoad »

fooqux wrote: post #91
notatoad wrote: post #84

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>I'm still not going to use Yahoo search as it's really just Google search Yahoo is a Bing frontend now. Same as DuckDuckGo.

According to https://duck.co/help/results/sources you are incorrect. DuckDuckGo pulls their results from many sources, including bing, Yahoo, and their own bots.

That doesnt say I'm incorrect. the official pr says that they combine over 100 sources including bing without specifying how heavily they rely on any single source. But I've seen many times comments from ddg staff on here saying its mostly bing.

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Post by mintplant »

Kequc wrote: post #105
l33tbro wrote: post #55

Too bad their shitty mail service does not play nicely at all with Firefox. Seriously, Yahoo Mail does not even allow me to attach a PDF when I'm in Firefox. There's a raft of other functionality issues which drove me to the decision to migrate 15 years worth of emails out of it.

The only yahoo properties that I'm aware of that I use are groups and mail, both of which are a buggy mess. When I started noticing the "Upgrade to firefox" spam I cringed a little bit inside at how far firefox has fallen. I'm using Chrome over here, it's the world's most popular and arguably most powerful browser. I don't need to "Upgrade" away from it, makers of yahoo groups and yahoo mail. It doesn't come across t…

It's only fair play when Google tells users to "switch to a faster browser" (Chrome) on their homepage.

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Post by [deleted] »

barrkel wrote: post #80
bonzoT wrote: post #6

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agreed. the term upgrade also brings with it a connotation of being better. I am doubtful that this is this case.

It depends on what you want. If you're primarily interested in speedy javascript, process isolation across tabs (so busy tabs don't lock out the UI), or debugging web apps, I think Chrome is better. Chrome in particular seems to have a much smoother JS execution profile; it may be down to GC, or something else, but Chrome generally has fewer frames dropped for any given demo. On the other hand, Firefox is way more fe…

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Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Post by _delirium »

aikah wrote: post #152
l33tbro wrote: post #55

Too bad their shitty mail service does not play nicely at all with Firefox. Seriously, Yahoo Mail does not even allow me to attach a PDF when I'm in Firefox. There's a raft of other functionality issues which drove me to the decision to migrate 15 years worth of emails out of it.

For me it has always been about the spam filter(gmail is way better at it) ,and the fact that I didn't have to pay to read my mails in outlook with gmail.Maybe it has changed but the "forwarding" was a paid feature in yahoo mail.

Oddly the lack of a decent spam-filter was the reason I left gmail. It had way too many false positives for me, including some very problematic ones. The last straw was when it flagged an email from my landlord as spam, with the explanation that it was flagged because it was written in Danish, a language I don't normally communicate in. It's true that I don't normally write in Danish. But I do live in Denmark, so it doesn't seem very justified to flag something as spam just because it's written in Danish. If anything, emails written in Danish are the most likely to be important!

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Post by EpicEng »

sp332 wrote: post #95
EpicEng wrote: post #92

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"That way it doesn't take tons of RAM for overhead" Weird; I switched from FF to Chrome specifically because FF was a huge memory hog. I have read that it is better these days though. -- what does the downvoting mean here exactly? That I didn't experience excessive memory usage in FF and I'm lying?

Yeah, they have a MemShrink team now. https://wiki.mozilla.org/Performance/MemShrink They got serious about memory leaks in their own code, and even took steps to limit hogging by 3rd-party plugins. Now they host https://AreWeSlimYet.com/ to track regressions. Edit: and Chrome really does take a ton of RAM if you have lots of tabs open.

"and Chrome really does take a ton of RAM if you have lots of tabs open."

Yup, it does. My problem with FF years ago was with leaks. It would eventually bring my entire system to a state of paging hell until I killed it. That was years ago though, I've since become comfortable with chrome and haven't found aneed to go back.

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