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Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Post by npsimons »

dochtman wrote: post #2

Seems like that has no doubt been an important part of the deal that Yahoo! and Mozilla made. It's an interesting way to get back at Google's heavy promotion of Chrome on their properties.

To be perfectly honest, I'm sick of Chrome being pushed down my throat at every turn (including in emacs-w3m; if I'm using emacs-w3m, I'm pretty damn sure I know what Chrome is and I consciously choose not to use it). Yes, I know it's their baby, yes I know it's their SE; but this headline brought a wry smile to my face. Turnabout is fair play :P

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Post by rifung »

callahad wrote: post #127
Noxchi wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chrome started being annoying for me after version 36, but firefox was bad too. Recently made the switch to Opera and it has been much better than chrome or firefox. Opera is based on webkit, so it renders just like Chrome, has the same web dev features, and you can use almost all of chromes extensions in Opera. On top of that, I find Opera to take out a lot of the annoyances I've had with Chrome. Also Opera doesn't…

> it's not hindered by Google's politics. Opera is actually based on Blink, Google's fork of WebKit, so it does inherit Google's politics, and contributes to Google's monopolization of web standards.

I believe the person you're responding to was referring to how Google inherently wants to track users due to their business model, although I think you bring up a valid point.

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Post by vacri »

mattmanser wrote: post #113
glaslong wrote: post #79

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Now that I've gotten used to them, I really like the !bang operators. They're incredibly convenient. A few of the ones I abuse constantly: !g - google !bi - bing image !yt - youtube !so - stackoverflow !w - wikipedia !py - python docs The exhaustive list is here: https://duckduckgo.com/bang.html

Why are bangs good? Why not just go to the site? Also Stackoverflow's search and many other site searches are totally rubbish. Not a bit, but totally rubbish. Here's an example: "!so c# read file" => this delivers useless results, the top result being "Reading Excel files from C#" Compare that to "stackoverflow c# read file" on google, which delivers what you actually want, with the question "Reading From a Text File…

You don't have to load the site (trivial, but not negligible), throwing a bang in front of an already written search is simpler than rewriting the search, and google doesn't build a profile around you as another entity is doing the search.

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Post by ironmagma »

datamatt wrote: post #89
ironmagma wrote: post #34

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Chrome doesn't even work with its own company's social network plugin (Hangouts). I always have to switch to Firefox to use screen share.

I haven't encountered problems with Hangouts. But the new Firefox Hello service for in browser webcam chats is pretty awesome: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-hello-make-rece... (disclaimer: I do actually work for mozilla)

Seems only tangential, since I don't see anything about group calls or screen share (which are the main features we need Hangouts for).

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Post by blaze33 »

barrkel wrote: post #80
bonzoT wrote: post #6

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agreed. the term upgrade also brings with it a connotation of being better. I am doubtful that this is this case.

It depends on what you want. If you're primarily interested in speedy javascript, process isolation across tabs (so busy tabs don't lock out the UI), or debugging web apps, I think Chrome is better. Chrome in particular seems to have a much smoother JS execution profile; it may be down to GC, or something else, but Chrome generally has fewer frames dropped for any given demo. On the other hand, Firefox is way more fe…

Can you recommend any particular Firefox tree-tabs or tab panorama addons ? I don't know how I went this far without this...

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Post by girvo »

mattmanser wrote: post #113
glaslong wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now that I've gotten used to them, I really like the !bang operators. They're incredibly convenient. A few of the ones I abuse constantly: !g - google !bi - bing image !yt - youtube !so - stackoverflow !w - wikipedia !py - python docs The exhaustive list is here: https://duckduckgo.com/bang.html

Why are bangs good? Why not just go to the site? Also Stackoverflow's search and many other site searches are totally rubbish. Not a bit, but totally rubbish. Here's an example: "!so c# read file" => this delivers useless results, the top result being "Reading Excel files from C#" Compare that to "stackoverflow c# read file" on google, which delivers what you actually want, with the question "Reading From a Text File…

And if you search a programming term in DDG, it'll show you relevant results from SO in-line on the results page, which is pretty lovely.

Re: Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox

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Post by Noxchi »

callahad wrote: post #127
Noxchi wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chrome started being annoying for me after version 36, but firefox was bad too. Recently made the switch to Opera and it has been much better than chrome or firefox. Opera is based on webkit, so it renders just like Chrome, has the same web dev features, and you can use almost all of chromes extensions in Opera. On top of that, I find Opera to take out a lot of the annoyances I've had with Chrome. Also Opera doesn't…

> it's not hindered by Google's politics. Opera is actually based on Blink, Google's fork of WebKit, so it does inherit Google's politics, and contributes to Google's monopolization of web standards.

What I meant by that was Opera lets users do what they want, and doesn't try to hinder them like google does when certain features are against their interest. Things like:

* Opera's extension store has Youtube Center, which google disallows in it's store.

* When you highlight text and want to search it, Opera lets you search using your default SE, and then a second option to use something like duckduckgo, amazon, wikipedia, etc..

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