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Re: The Pirate Bay down, forever?

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Post by NoMoreNicksLeft »

cpach wrote: post #115
RubyPinch wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't it already roughly done like that? the entire bittorrent magnet system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet_URI_scheme which, if I'm not mistaken, will look for peers which have the relevant torrent file, and acquire and use that - - - and the 90MB is all the information /except/ torrent files, once again, if I'm not mistaken

Currently you still need a web site for searching the magnet links.

I've always wondered if bittorrent itself wasn't the right protocol for this. Let's say you have a tiny web page, with embedded javascript that implements bt. A person could keep a copy of this page local to their system, have a bookmark for it. The page, when it loads, uses bt to grab a copy of thepiratebay, and load it inline. It wouldn't even need a domain name at that point.

The swarm for this would be large enough that it would be self-sustaining, it'd be impossible to shut it down.

I just can't figure out how you'd make it updatable, so that new content could be added to it.

(Also, there's the issue of initial distribution of the html file that let's people get access to it...)

Re: The Pirate Bay down, forever?

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Post by ZoF »

evo_9 wrote: post #158
ZoF wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm genuinely curious as to why an admin hasn't changed this title yet. Certainly enough people have commented about it and it is a grossly misleading omission.

Yeah pretty much the silliest thing about HN now - the endless title tweaking by the mods. And to what end? More than once the title has changed so significantly I thought it was an entirely new article.

I agree there should be something that signifies a changed title(perhaps just an appended asterisk) but I also think it is useful and oftentimes necessary functionality.

How would it be 'silly' to add the question mark to the end of this posts title? Especially given that HN guidelines explicitly state that titles should be the headline of the article.

Re: The Pirate Bay down, forever?

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Post by ZoF »

zodiakzz wrote: post #157
mfisher87 wrote: post #131

NICE TITLE HN: "The pirate bay down forever (Peter Sunde's blog)" Peter Sunde's Blog: "The Pirate Bay down, forever?"

So even HN submitters will linkbait us now? A new low. Someone penalise them please.

>So even HN submitters will linkbait us now?

Pretty much how I feel about this article.

Here's a large excerpt(almost half of the article):

" As a big fan of the KLF I once learned that it’s great to burn great things up. At least then you can quit while you’re on top. I think I left TPB just a little bit after that top, and not when it’s as shitty as it was when it was closed today. It feels good that it might have closed down forever, just a real shame the way it did that. A planned retirement would have given the community time and a way to kick off something new, something better, something faster, something more reliable and with no chance of corrupting itself. Something that had a soul and could retain it. "

This is basically Peter Sunde lamenting the loss of values in the current iteration of TPB and stating he would be glad if it ended now.

I'm not making any judgement as to whether his viewpoint is valid/warranted or not, but the implication this title gives(given that we know Peter Sunde was a former TPB employee) is that ThePirateBay is closing forever and this is an article explaining why.

That's not what this is. There is nothing concrete here regarding TPB closing forever.

This article provides no new information save the fact that this former contributor is discontent with the direction TPB has gone.

Please note, I still find this article interesting; it is interesting to note how a key contributor during TPB's infancy feels about the site. The title remains misleading though.

Re: The Pirate Bay down, forever?

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Post by maccam912 »

laxatives wrote: post #139

I'm not familiar with Peter Sunde, but this sounds a lot like Peter isn't attached to Pirate Bay at all anymore.

Correct. He has done time and decided to move on with his life. Stopped being involved with TPB in 2009 except for occasionally blogging about it like he did here.

Re: The Pirate Bay down, forever?

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Post by Fuzzwah »

Fastidious wrote: post #71

The article mentions KLF. What is that?

I just want to add a link to the previous replies:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Manual

The Manual (How to Have a Number One the Easy Way) is a 1988 book by The Timelords (Bill Drummond and Jimmy Cauty), better known as The KLF. It is a step by step guide to achieving a No.1 single with no money or musical skills, and a case study of the duo's UK novelty pop No. 1 "Doctorin' the Tardis".

It is a great read and well worth tracking down.

Re: The Pirate Bay down, forever?

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Post by derekp7 »

bad_user wrote: post #61
eXpl0it3r wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I'm one of these "jerks", but it's always amusing to me when people complain about ads on the internet, while there are so many different ad-blockers out there.

I never understood ad blockers or the people promoting ad blockers. People complain about ads, yet they are unwilling to pay for content, with the popularity of something like ThePirateBay being testament to that. And then, I can understand that many websites are showing distasteful ads, but if you don't like it, then don't use those websites. This gives a chance to competing websites, being practically like voting w…

To tell you the truth, I haven't in the past used add blockers. There is one site that I've visited several times a day (Slashdot), which had started getting really annoying. I'd walk away from my computer, the screen would be locked, and an hour later I'd hear a video ad start playing through the speakers. Also when I was using a mobile hotspot, I'd go through my monthly data allotment in just a couple of days, due to their aggressive ads. Once I installed an adblock on Chrome, it apparently auto-installed the extension on my other PCs, and I haven't really bothered to take it off.

Re: The Pirate Bay down, forever?

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Post by cogburnd02 »

Aynatix wrote: post #36

URLs to alternatives?

Sometimes if you Google something with the keyword 'torrent' (e.g. "sia 1000 forms of fear torrent") even if Google doesn't give you anything relevant, you might get a Google results page that has a DMCA notice at the bottom; click that, it'll take you to Chilling Effects, and the badly-written (or excellently-written, depending on your POV) DMCA letters will have huge lists of alternatives to TPB, and relevant links to what you were Googling for. e.g.

https://www.chillingeffects.org/notices/10197331

https://www.chillingeffects.org/notices/10203483

https://www.chillingeffects.org/notices/1135322

Re: The Pirate Bay down, forever?

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Post by clarry »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #79
roel_v wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's sad that I have to beat that tired old drum again, but in law, intent matters (yes I have a law degree but I think it's fair to say that one doesn't need one to know that). After 15 years I should have been desensitized by farcically naive 'reasoning' (or I should say, farcically naive sophistry, because let's face it, that's what it is) like 'they don't post torrents, the users do' and 'how can a small string b…

Maybe a better analogy would be hiring a hall for a music copiers swap meet and charging advertisers for wall space around the hall? Now, as crimes go I happen to think TPB are far less guilty of offences against humanity than - say - the bankers who cause the 2008 meltdown, or the torturers at the CIA. And it's also debatable just how many sales of mainstream CDs are lost due to piracy. But I know a couple of small…

> piracy killed their revenue stream

I hear about things like this every once in a while, but where's the proof?

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