Time to take back Usenet and build another archive independently of Google, somehow.
The biggest problem would seem to be either liberating the raw data from Google or finding someone who still has readable archives.
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
The biggest problem would seem to be either liberating the raw data from Google or finding someone who still has readable archives.
Don't some ISPs still have their own USENET servers?
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#43It looks like they already fixed the search. I can find my own embarrassing posts from when I was a teenager. I had forgotten how excited I was about computer games. :P
Try to search for old posts by USENET group and with a fixed e-mail address - it will not work properly. What doesn't work:
- search by e-mail address,
- search by USENET group, e.g., comp.lang.perl.misc,
- you must log in to get any reasonable functionality.
Why don't they give it back to the Deja people along with sufficient funding? They were doing it just fine, thank you. Wouldn't worry me if _all_ Google Groups posts were trashed and USENET restored to it's primary role.
USENET was once the most important Internet resource to me and the only one I would have paid for. It's been seriously damaged under Google's reign. Heads really, really should roll over this.
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#44I had noticed problems a few weeks ago, but it seems to be working today. http://groups.google.com/group/alt.hypertext/search?group=al... And the advanced search always worked and still works better. http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?q=&sitesearch=g...
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#46Google Groups used to be a great service when they first took over Deja News, but things have been gradually deteriorating ever since. They used to be read-only; now, they allow anyone with a fake account to post. They are a huge source of Usenet spam. I have been kill-filing posts from Google Groups for about a year. It's not a pleasant thing to do, since there still are quite a few people who I like to read but onl…
i.e. I believe that comp.lang.python is the same as the python-list mailing list.
Re: Google’s Abandoned Library of 700 Million Titles: Usenet
#47Time to take back Usenet and build another archive independently of Google, somehow.
The biggest problem would seem to be either liberating the raw data from Google or finding someone who still has readable archives.
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#48When google first put the archive online, I could find 100's of posts I made in the 80's. Now, there are a few 10's. At this point, I don't even use the search for old stuff, assuming that the bits have just rotted so much that it's not worth it.
You mean when they first bought out Deja, right?
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#49A bit off-topic, but I just read the features list for mosaic ( http://groups.google.com/group/alt.hypertext/msg/7fde2f6d4d5... ) and was really surprised how close it is to browsers nowadays. The only serious improvements that current firefox has over that mosaic are: tabs, JS and blocking stuff. (I'm not counting stuff that's just a simple improvement - like rendering new html+css, ability to use icons for favourit…
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#50I used to participate in Usenet a lot, back in the mid 90s. Rather stupidly, I set the no archive header ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-No-Archive ) on all my posts. Now I can only find myself quoted in replies. Shame, really.