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Re: Wire – Modern Communications Network

#21

Post by nikolak » Wed, Dec 03, 2014, 9:34 AM UTC

It's not everywhere, it has no video chat, and nobody uses it. If it somehow manages to "kill" anything it definitely won't be Skype.

Re: Wire – Modern Communications Network

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Post by hucker » Wed, Dec 03, 2014, 9:34 AM UTC

bugsbunny123 wrote: post #16

kristofferR wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really disagree. There's simply no good secure cross-platform messaging app available. Telegram has fantastic clients on all the platforms, but isn't secure. TextSecure is secure, but has only a mediocre app on a single platform (Android). The other alternatives are even worse. Tox is looking really promising though: https://wiki.tox.im/FAQ

Telegram isn't secure? Source please.

http://www.cryptofails.com/post/70546720222/telegrams-crypta...

Also, messages are not encrypted by default, and there is afaik no way to encrypt group chats. You have to create a special "secret" chat for the messages to be encrypted.

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#23

Post by furyg3 » Wed, Dec 03, 2014, 9:34 AM UTC

bugsbunny123 wrote: post #16

kristofferR wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really disagree. There's simply no good secure cross-platform messaging app available. Telegram has fantastic clients on all the platforms, but isn't secure. TextSecure is secure, but has only a mediocre app on a single platform (Android). The other alternatives are even worse. Tox is looking really promising though: https://wiki.tox.im/FAQ

Telegram isn't secure? Source please.

It's the other way around. Messaging apps need to demonstrate their own security by releasing the source code.

So far only TextSecure does this.

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Post by b3tta » Wed, Dec 03, 2014, 9:35 AM UTC

bugsbunny123 wrote: post #16

kristofferR wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really disagree. There's simply no good secure cross-platform messaging app available. Telegram has fantastic clients on all the platforms, but isn't secure. TextSecure is secure, but has only a mediocre app on a single platform (Android). The other alternatives are even worse. Tox is looking really promising though: https://wiki.tox.im/FAQ

Telegram isn't secure? Source please.

I guess stuff like that: http://unhandledexpression.com/2013/12/17/telegram-stand-bac...

Re: Wire – Modern Communications Network

#25

Post by lewispb » Wed, Dec 03, 2014, 9:35 AM UTC

kristofferR wrote: post #14

NullReference wrote: post #4

"What we need is another messaging app" said nobody, ever. It looks pretty, but this is yet another app in the long list of "Skype killers" or "Voice/video/text" messaging. It seems like it's the default goto for anyone that can't think of something more interesting these days.

I really disagree. There's simply no good secure cross-platform messaging app available. Telegram has fantastic clients on all the platforms, but isn't secure. TextSecure is secure, but has only a mediocre app on a single platform (Android). The other alternatives are even worse. Tox is looking really promising though: https://wiki.tox.im/FAQ

WhatsApp is starting to implement TextSecure technology in it's cross-platform apps and has 600m users.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-30114346

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Post by kristofferR » Wed, Dec 03, 2014, 9:37 AM UTC

lewispb wrote: post #25

kristofferR wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really disagree. There's simply no good secure cross-platform messaging app available. Telegram has fantastic clients on all the platforms, but isn't secure. TextSecure is secure, but has only a mediocre app on a single platform (Android). The other alternatives are even worse. Tox is looking really promising though: https://wiki.tox.im/FAQ

WhatsApp is starting to implement TextSecure technology in it's cross-platform apps and has 600m users. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-30114346

Yeah, but WhatsApp isn't actually cross platform. It's only on mobile devices.

And the article you linked points out several times that the encryption is only going to be enabled for WhatsApp's Android client for the time being.

Re: Wire – Modern Communications Network

#27

Post by JonoBB » Wed, Dec 03, 2014, 9:37 AM UTC

bugsbunny123 wrote: post #16

kristofferR wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really disagree. There's simply no good secure cross-platform messaging app available. Telegram has fantastic clients on all the platforms, but isn't secure. TextSecure is secure, but has only a mediocre app on a single platform (Android). The other alternatives are even worse. Tox is looking really promising though: https://wiki.tox.im/FAQ

Telegram isn't secure? Source please.