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Stripe raises $70M at $3.5B valuation, double that of January

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Re: Stripe raises $70M at $3.5B valuation, double that of January

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Please don't submit articles which are behind paywalls. Usually ft.com, wsj.com can be accessed freely by using Google Webcache. Here is the link to the cached article : http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:3i5Cv6t... Edit : You can use cachedpages.com to get links to Google Webcache et al.

Please don't submit articles which are behind paywalls.

I'm pretty sure if that's what the moderators wanted, they could just block wsj.com and ft.com directly. Personally I would rather see more payed content because I think it tends to be of higher quality, especially when it comes to business/finance journalism.

Re: Stripe raises $70M at $3.5B valuation, double that of January

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Some of your assumptions are off (e.g. our liquidation preferences are 1x non-participating pari passu; there are no seniority games), but I really enjoyed your Bayesian vs frequentist statistics lecture at 6.945 back in the day!

Thanks, Patrick! (And thanks for posting Mosh on here and giving us a kick in the butt to really release it...) If Stripe just has one class of preferred stock, you're right that my assumptions are off, and I guess then it would be reasonable to impute the value of the newly-issued preferred shares to all the preferred shares. I would still disagree with imputing it to the common, especially since you presumably have…

I think this is mostly a pedantic point for a late stage private convertible preferred.

While private convertible preferreds typically have a dividend stream, conversion option (typically at spot) and liquidation preference (1x and presumably no participation feature in this case), they are theoretically more valuable than common. However, since there is no public market for the common, hedging that option wouldn't be efficient (if feasible at all) so I don't think the valuation really reflects that additional value (if at all). Investors develop a valuation view based on the metrics they would use for common (growth, fundamentals, perhaps some real option value, etc.) and invest based on that. All the preferred features are in the doc to provide some protection in the downside, which I don't think is much of a consideration in case of Stripe. You can see this pricing dynamic in S-1 filings of a few precedents (Twitter comes to mind) where founders were able to tender some of their common in the later rounds at the same valuation as preferred[1].

On the other hand, you are spot on when it comes to a public security (i.e. post-IPO convertible preferred, mostly capital/ratings instrument and quite uncommon in tech) - you would definitely bake-in the option value and dividend stream into the security valuation which would result in some conversion premium for the company and say 5-10 points in theoretical value above the par for investors. The difference is that primary buyers of the public convertible preferred security would be hedge funds who can short the common and effectively monetize the option value embedded in the security.

If anything, the way I would look at this is that any credible bid for Stripe would probably have to be in 4-5x of that valuation.

[1] See pgs. 139 (bottom, 2011 Third-Party Tender Offer) and II-3 (top) of Twitter S-1 (http://1.usa.gov/1cEqy0J) for difference of ~1%, likely due to fees, etc.

Re: Stripe raises $70M at $3.5B valuation, double that of January

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It seems churlish to keep pointing this out, but (assuming the investment is consistent with the typical Silicon Valley practice), it is just not true that this investment, or any participant, has now valued the company at $3.5 billion. Stripe has sold the investors a new round of senior preferred shares (again, making assumptions). These shares carry various bells and whistles whose terms we don't know -- but probab…

I agree with all of what you've said. It's also worth noting that this is just 2% of the company. One person offering to pay cash for 2% of a company with seniority preferences is very different than someone offering cash for the entire thing.

Re: Stripe raises $70M at $3.5B valuation, double that of January

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Fascinating. Was completely expecting you to say Braintree. So they look a little like a blended monthly fee and transaction fees with the benefit/incentive being to help you drive as many transactions as you can via non CC options so you aren't paying 2.69% and 30 cents etc.

Interesting, haven't heard of them surprisingly. Although it looks as they're a PayPal company.

Yep, they were acquired by Paypal.

Re: Stripe raises $70M at $3.5B valuation, double that of January

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I am building a web app right now and am looking forward to when I can start using Stripe to capture payments. Stripe's design (in terms of both usability and visual appeal) is excellent for a tech company. The API documentation is amazingly easy to read and understand. Also, I love your blog.

Best of luck to Stripe!

Re: Stripe raises $70M at $3.5B valuation, double that of January

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Please don't submit articles which are behind paywalls. Usually ft.com, wsj.com can be accessed freely by using Google Webcache. Here is the link to the cached article : http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:3i5Cv6t... Edit : You can use cachedpages.com to get links to Google Webcache et al.

Please don't submit articles which are behind paywalls. I'm pretty sure if that's what the moderators wanted, they could just block wsj.com and ft.com directly. Personally I would rather see more payed content because I think it tends to be of higher quality, especially when it comes to business/finance journalism.

The issue is the same information is available from other sources without a paywall and the difference in information or insight is negligible for articles like this.

Re: Stripe raises $70M at $3.5B valuation, double that of January

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In my experience Stripe has very poor customer service. Hopefully they spend some of this money in that department. Trying to talk back and forth through e-mail because they won't give me a number to call about sales trying to get a lower rate because my volume of sales is greater than $80k+ monthly, waiting 24+ hours on average for a reply and even 72+ hours on one occasion, finally gave up on them and went with ano…

Not my experience at all. Haven't tried recently but previously they've always been willing to help and even pretty complex technical queries have been answered fast. I didn't need phone support though.

Re: Stripe raises $70M at $3.5B valuation, double that of January

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I'm very sorry about that! The support team has expanded a lot this year; we're working on it. Feel free to email me directly if I can ever help -- patrick@stripe.com.

Please be more active on IRC. Right now it is a guy called 'markin' that is doing all the support, and he isn't even hired by you. He says he is happy with the t-shirts and stuff that he have received, but it would be nice with a more direct route to actual employees.

I've spoken to some Stripes about it, getting on top of IRC is definitely something they're working on and some hints of that are showing with the new developer support position.

I'm always happy to help out, Stripe's a fun and easy platform to develop upon, and its always fun to see what other people are building, see how they're using Stripe, etc. I definitely think I've learned as much helping as I've taught.

I will take an invite to the infamous Taco Tuesday though :p

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