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Re: So...what the hell's wrong with you, Shooter?

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Post by ErrantX » Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 9:11 AM UTC

ars wrote: post #37

ErrantX wrote: post #36

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That's interesting. I wasnt directly suggesting it was reason to support a public plan btw. Just that it sounds pretty stinky. I also would add that I think you've got the wrong "problem". control costs by challenging doctors on what they bill, and at the same time not making it hard for people to get the services they need Is never an issue over here [UK] (not just because of the public aspect).

I think in the UK the insurance people tell the doctors what to do. But they hide it well, and it doesn't seem to cause a problem. (Or maybe it just doesn't bother the people as much, the US has a more independent culture.) Could a doctor in the UK prescribe an experimental treatment? Could he prescribe it and get insurance to pay for it? I bet not without a fight. Perhaps the difference is that there, the fight is b…

Could a doctor in the UK prescribe an experimental treatment?Could he prescribe it and get insurance to pay for it? I bet not without a fight.

Yes, because insurance doesn't pay for it. You can get experimental treatment on the NHS - I think it is a little more of a hoop to jump through and depends on the actual hospital your at (for example most will insist other forms of medicine have been tried first).

Here doctors are a lot less litigatable as individuals; I think that is the main reason health care is better here. Without frivolous lawsuits and insurance companies breathing down their necks.

Re: So...what the hell's wrong with you, Shooter?

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Post by lyime » Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 9:12 AM UTC

gscott wrote: post #35

I have a friend who has the exact same condition, he went everywhere but was diagnosed with Lymes disease from a local doctor, the heavy metals put her onto Lymes and it has changed his life. His story is very similar in length so TMI as well but tom_obrien10001@yahoo.com is his email.

My roommate also had similar conditions. He was at the hospital every week. Always fatigued, extreme migraine, gaining weight, muscle pain and tons of other symptoms. He was super healthy and just started deteriorating. Unfortunately and sad ending, He passed away because he overdosed on pain meds about a year ago.

I wish you the best of recovery in the near future. Thank you for sharing this story.

Re: So...what the hell's wrong with you, Shooter?

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Post by amih » Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 9:16 AM UTC

Congratulations on the baby, If you're afraid of passing out while holding the baby - you can do it in a safe place like sitting in a sofa.

On another issue - research on 811 raw vegan or juice feasting. Nutrition can have a great impact on your body and you can support your immune system by feeding your body nutritious meals instead of burdening it with hard to digest cooked food.

Check out bee pollen and raw honey. From personal experience I can tell you that 10 days of 2 to 3 liters of apple and carrot juice a day really improved my energy levels.

Re: So...what the hell's wrong with you, Shooter?

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Post by chrischen » Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 9:34 AM UTC

ars wrote: post #31

ErrantX wrote: post #26

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It seems awful to me that all of that effort is needed just to make sure your not screwed over by the insurance company :( Or is it just the norm and Im not used to it?

Most hospitals have a person who's job it is to deal with insurance companies for you. Changing to a public plan isn't going to make it better (since they will still be trying to control costs by not treating unnecessary things). The one thing that will make it better is more integration, but then you have people complaining that the insurance companies are telling doctors what to do. There is no perfect way to both:…

Wouldn't a public plan have less incentive for revenue since they can be subsidized?

Re: So...what the hell's wrong with you, Shooter?

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Post by chrischen » Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 9:36 AM UTC

noonespecial wrote: post #20

zeugma wrote: post #18

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Yeah MRI machine are definitively cavemen technology ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_resonance_imaging#Phys... ) you should help

Well, yeah, I know, magnetic resonance is a mighty cool hack. I was just hoping that it could be maybe, you know, a bit smaller . Not costing as much as a first class ticket from NY to Tokyo for a trip through one might be a nice touch as well. Hell, lets just go all sci-fi and get right to the part where there's an iphone app for waving over a person and seeing their insides in full color in real time...

Isn't it much cheaper in countries like in Japan? I heard it was under $100 to get scanned.

Re: So...what the hell's wrong with you, Shooter?

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Post by kniwor » Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 9:52 AM UTC

This might be way out there but have you investigated what the cost of going to another country and getting treatment there would be?

You already have a correct diagnosis. You sort of know what needs to be done and only need docs qualified but unafraid to do it and cheaper meds. You might be surprised how comparatively cheap all that can be outside US and the local laws in other countries might mean that the docs there don't have to worry about treating you there like they have to in the US. (Anecdote: A friend of mine once calculated that despite what the insurance covered for him, if he had come to Bombay and gotten treatment at the best facilities staying in a 3 star hotel all the while, it would have cost him less and he would have received way better treatment from more qualified docs.)

Good luck to you. Hope you get well soon.

Re: So...what the hell's wrong with you, Shooter?

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Post by Andys » Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 10:06 AM UTC

chrischen wrote: post #45

noonespecial wrote: post #20

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Well, yeah, I know, magnetic resonance is a mighty cool hack. I was just hoping that it could be maybe, you know, a bit smaller . Not costing as much as a first class ticket from NY to Tokyo for a trip through one might be a nice touch as well. Hell, lets just go all sci-fi and get right to the part where there's an iphone app for waving over a person and seeing their insides in full color in real time...

Isn't it much cheaper in countries like in Japan? I heard it was under $100 to get scanned.

It is certainly much cheaper here in Australia, the cost is several hundred dollars. There are MRI machines available in just about every major suburb.

Re: So...what the hell's wrong with you, Shooter?

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Post by ErrantX » Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 10:13 AM UTC

aw3c2 wrote: post #32

ars wrote: post #30

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Emotional response? Is it really that hard to read the second line on the page? Specifically the name of the person submitting the story? Or maybe search for the word Shooter on this page? I also did not know who it was, but it wasn't that hard to find out.

Of course I did click on the username to see the profile. I did not see a "check out my startup" in his submission nor anything else distinct. So is it http://www.amazon.com/D.-C.-Phillips/e/B001HCUZK0 (searched the web for his email alias) or what?

The question is (and why you got downvoted) does it matter?

It's just a guy sharing his story because he was asked about it on another thread. Does knowing who he is change much? (i.e. if he's some super famous guy does he get more sympathy ;))

Re: So...what the hell's wrong with you, Shooter?

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Post by ars » Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 10:23 AM UTC

ErrantX wrote: post #41

ars wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think in the UK the insurance people tell the doctors what to do. But they hide it well, and it doesn't seem to cause a problem. (Or maybe it just doesn't bother the people as much, the US has a more independent culture.) Could a doctor in the UK prescribe an experimental treatment? Could he prescribe it and get insurance to pay for it? I bet not without a fight. Perhaps the difference is that there, the fight is b…

Could a doctor in the UK prescribe an experimental treatment?Could he prescribe it and get insurance to pay for it? I bet not without a fight. Yes, because insurance doesn't pay for it. You can get experimental treatment on the NHS - I think it is a little more of a hoop to jump through and depends on the actual hospital your at (for example most will insist other forms of medicine have been tried first). Here doctor…

I think the insurance companies considered Shooter's treatment experimental, which is why they gave him trouble. But apparently did pay at the end.

Re: So...what the hell's wrong with you, Shooter?

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Post by bugmenot » Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 10:48 AM UTC

You should definitely try fasting (no food, water only). After a couple of days there should be visible results (You will feel Yourself different).

Another possible advice is to limit carbohydrates (partually replacing them with fats). There is a whole host of possible problems from excess carbohydrates (starting from diabetes, high blood pressure and overweight).