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Re: How to crack a master lock

#41

Post by nitrogen »

notnotrick2047 wrote: post #31
pg wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nearly everything that's killed is killed by software, not manually. But if you want you can consider me responsible.

Now this is ridiculous I have changed two accounts in two days, just because for some reason I have pissed of software. It doesnt give any reason, it just cripples my accounts and kills my posts. This is preposterous. At least a reason should be given for such, an I am rather surprised to say, rude and uncivilized behavior. All the posts that got my accounts killed had one thing in common, I posted something against…

Just out of curiosity I looked at some of your older posts on your other accounts (turning on showdead). Being relatively new here myself (about 7 months) I can't speak for the staff or the downvoters, but if you were to look at your posting history over the past 21 days you might be able to infer the behaviors that get them upset. You might even try a statistical analysis of your killed posts if you really want to understand what is triggering the automatic kill switch.

The point I want to make is that when participating in a community, there is usually a natural feedback process that allows one to discover the rules and values of that community. If one does something out of line, the community will swiftly react. Multiple negative reactions are a sign that one's behavior isn't in line with the community's standards, and should be used as an input to the decision-making loop that says, "Wait, maybe they don't like it when I do X all the time." Then, you either decide to adapt to the community, or you leave.

Also, most communities will only accept a limited amount of correction from any given source, which varies by source and by community. One of the behaviors that's likely to earn repeated negative feedback is trying to change the community more than allowed by one's standing within the community.

Re: How to crack a master lock

#42

Post by sdp »

notnotrick2047 wrote: post #31
pg wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nearly everything that's killed is killed by software, not manually. But if you want you can consider me responsible.

Now this is ridiculous I have changed two accounts in two days, just because for some reason I have pissed of software. It doesnt give any reason, it just cripples my accounts and kills my posts. This is preposterous. At least a reason should be given for such, an I am rather surprised to say, rude and uncivilized behavior. All the posts that got my accounts killed had one thing in common, I posted something against…

Sounds like HN is becoming self-aware and vetoing any attempts at critical thinking with regards to its policies.

Long live HN Skynet!

Re: How to crack a master lock

#43

Post by mahmud »

sdp wrote: post #42
notnotrick2047 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now this is ridiculous I have changed two accounts in two days, just because for some reason I have pissed of software. It doesnt give any reason, it just cripples my accounts and kills my posts. This is preposterous. At least a reason should be given for such, an I am rather surprised to say, rude and uncivilized behavior. All the posts that got my accounts killed had one thing in common, I posted something against…

Sounds like HN is becoming self-aware and vetoing any attempts at critical thinking with regards to its policies. Long live HN Skynet!

Don't be so paranoid. I recently discovered an account that was being auto-killed and made a small fuss about it. Paul read the comment and found the reason; that user submitted a story from a spam website and all his subsequent non-spam submissions were auto-nuked. Quickly Paul went back and unflagged the guys non-spam submission:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=862023

Re: How to crack a master lock

#44

Post by notnotrick2047 »

nitrogen wrote: post #41
notnotrick2047 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now this is ridiculous I have changed two accounts in two days, just because for some reason I have pissed of software. It doesnt give any reason, it just cripples my accounts and kills my posts. This is preposterous. At least a reason should be given for such, an I am rather surprised to say, rude and uncivilized behavior. All the posts that got my accounts killed had one thing in common, I posted something against…

Just out of curiosity I looked at some of your older posts on your other accounts (turning on showdead). Being relatively new here myself (about 7 months) I can't speak for the staff or the downvoters, but if you were to look at your posting history over the past 21 days you might be able to infer the behaviors that get them upset. You might even try a statistical analysis of your killed posts if you really want to u…

just to make it clear, I didnt post a spam site nor was I promoting anything for myself. These were just ideas of mine. Which I think are perfectly legitimate to express. No explicit language was used and there was no blame games.

Also for your advice that multiple downvotes got me killed. I made another account (notrick2047) before this (thats was the two nots in notnotrick2047) and it was vetoed out in 2 hours at 3 points. Now 3 points count as a fair or at least competent comment. But still I was crippled. And the most annoying thing is that it didn't give any feedback.

I demand an explanation.

Re: How to crack a master lock

#45

Post by by »

notnotrick2047 wrote: post #31
pg wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nearly everything that's killed is killed by software, not manually. But if you want you can consider me responsible.

Now this is ridiculous I have changed two accounts in two days, just because for some reason I have pissed of software. It doesnt give any reason, it just cripples my accounts and kills my posts. This is preposterous. At least a reason should be given for such, an I am rather surprised to say, rude and uncivilized behavior. All the posts that got my accounts killed had one thing in common, I posted something against…

Good submissions for me are carefully considered and composed. I always proof read mine before submission. I feel it is discourteous to expect 200 people to read something I am unwilling to read twice. I see four obvious mistakes in your post that someone with your clear command of English could have caught before posting. I have no knowledge of your other posts.

Re: How to crack a master lock

#47

Post by ryanwaggoner »

pg wrote: post #40
ryanwaggoner wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And I'm sure that nearly everything that's killed manually is justified, but that kind of misses the point, doesn't it? The whole point of transparency is so that we can see those cases where it wasn't automatic and where it wasn't justified. And especially so we can see if a particular user is killing stories that disagree with his political beliefs. I'm betting that just displaying his username next to the items he…

If someone started killing stories that disagreed with his political beliefs, I'd notice and unkill them. So you really can act as if anything dead (for long enough for me to have noticed) has my username displayed next to it, because I in effect signed off on it by leaving it dead.

I find this really unsatisfactory, but I can't put my finger on why. After all, I would be trusting you in the same way if you did alter the software to put the username next to all killed stories, but something about this answer still doesn't sit right with me.

Re: How to crack a master lock

#48

Post by grandalf »

kasterma wrote: post #46

The code for my lock would not be found this way. Choosing the correct 3rd number (which obviously I know) my whole code does not appear in the suggestions to try.

Is the resolution of a master lock down to the actual number? Perhaps the exploit relies on close combinations also working?

Re: How to crack a master lock

#49

Post by KC8ZKF »

dunmalg wrote: post #38

Old news to me. I figured this out on my own 20-odd years ago. Then again, I'm a locksmith and that's the kind of stupid shit apprentice locksmiths do for fun. Thing is, to a locksmith it's not really a particularly useful trick. Any competent locksmith has access to the combination via the serial number. Back then we had to look them up in books, but now, I can access all that via a web site with my phone. It's like…

According to Master Lock, they have quit putting the serial number on the lock body. http://www.masterlock.com/faq/lostcombo.shtml

Re: How to crack a master lock

#50

Post by rick2047 »

by wrote: post #45
notnotrick2047 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now this is ridiculous I have changed two accounts in two days, just because for some reason I have pissed of software. It doesnt give any reason, it just cripples my accounts and kills my posts. This is preposterous. At least a reason should be given for such, an I am rather surprised to say, rude and uncivilized behavior. All the posts that got my accounts killed had one thing in common, I posted something against…

Good submissions for me are carefully considered and composed. I always proof read mine before submission. I feel it is discourteous to expect 200 people to read something I am unwilling to read twice. I see four obvious mistakes in your post that someone with your clear command of English could have caught before posting. I have no knowledge of your other posts.

Ok now I have to take remedial grammar lessons?dude, I think it was a totally understandable post.
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