So the ones who gained weight were the one who said to themselves "I can have this extra donut, I'm working out now". Fascinating stuff.
Exercising but Gaining Weight
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#22>While this study didn’t track the women’s eating and movement habits away from the lab, it is likely that those who gained weight began eating more and moving less when they weren’t on the treadmills, “probably without meaning to,” Dr. Gaesser said. Without knowing the whole picture, it seems hard to draw any sort of meaningful conclusion. Weight loss is almost entirely diet-based.
People often overeat when they start exercising, either because they're hungry from the exercise, or because they feel can indulge a bit as a reward.
My view is that most people should ignore exercise and fix their diet first, only easing in to an exercise routine slowly once they start to see weight loss results.
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#24Running on a treadmill for an hour is about 600 calories. Eating an extra snack before bed can easily be that. To be calorie deficient and lose weight, it is so much easier to eat less than to exercise more. On top of that, exercising more can stimulate your appetite... leading to over eating. Basically you just have to be vigilant with not eating too much. I don't think counting calories is important, but 3 small me…
"You can't outrun a fork"
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The formula that I know works for me is calorie restriction and limiting carb/sugar intake as much as possible. The latter might be more effective than the former. Dr. Atkins adopters have challenged people to gain weight on the high fat / high protein diet, and those who took up the challenge simply could not "fatten up" - after a while they could consume only so much meat, cheese, fish and green veggies before fe…
> Dr. Atkins has challenged people to gain weight Where can I read about this?
This should open up the same book I linked up above http://books.google.com/books?id=Xdm40JUD9HwC&pg=PA310&lpg=P...
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#26Running on a treadmill for an hour is about 600 calories. Eating an extra snack before bed can easily be that. To be calorie deficient and lose weight, it is so much easier to eat less than to exercise more. On top of that, exercising more can stimulate your appetite... leading to over eating. Basically you just have to be vigilant with not eating too much. I don't think counting calories is important, but 3 small me…
WHAT you eat can be as important or even more important as HOW MUCH you eat. 99% of people still don't get that, they think a calorie is a calorie. We are not simply calorie burning machines. The human body, metabolism and related systems are incredibly more complex than that.
I agree with you, but that's not the argument I'd make for "What you eat" over "how much you eat."
The difficult part of managing weight isn't the food. The food is easy - eat less than X amount, and you will lose weight. No, the difficult part of it is mental. Food does more than simply provide nutrients. It satiates hunger and provides pleasurable experiences. People generally don't over-eat because they are lacking nutrients, they over-eat because they want the fun experiences of eating or to drive away the discomfort of feeling hungry.
So if you can give yourself smart choices about what you eat, and make it extra clear what the rules are for deciding things, you can exert a ton of control over how much you eat. Personally, I've lost 40 pounds on keto (an extremely low-card, moderate protein, high fat diet). I know keto does interact with your metabolism, but I suspect that a good chunk of the weight loss was simply by removing a lot of non-satiating calories.
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#27Running on a treadmill for an hour is about 600 calories. Eating an extra snack before bed can easily be that. To be calorie deficient and lose weight, it is so much easier to eat less than to exercise more. On top of that, exercising more can stimulate your appetite... leading to over eating. Basically you just have to be vigilant with not eating too much. I don't think counting calories is important, but 3 small me…
> 600 calories. Eating an extra snack before bed can easily be that.
I agree that it's easy to eat a lot of calories without paying attention, but it's only self-delusion that calls that a snack. That's almost two mcdonald's sandwiches. That's four bowls of cereal. 600 calories is an entire meal.
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#28This study shows a bit of what the general public really needs to understand about personal health: it's very hard to train multiple aspects of your fitness with only one type of activity.
Doing cardio makes you better at cardio. Strength training makes you stronger. Diet and hypertrophy improves your body composition.
You'll always hear people say "Oh your legs must be so strong from all those marathons you do." Entirely false, their cardio-vascular system is strong. I can virtually guarantee that any moderately dedicated powerlifter can squat more than a long-distance runner (form notwithstanding). Similarly, a marathoner's lean physique is a result of their diet, which they require in order to be successful at running, not because of their training.
I really wish that more people would take the time to sit down, identify their fitness goals, and ensure that their lifestyle is focused towards achieving their goals. For most people, all this is taking a good look at your diet!
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Basically you just have to be vigilant with not eating too much. No. There's no consistent evidence of large groups of people who started reducing calories and in return lost pounds predictably. Subjects lose energy, become irritable, get headaches and migraines, have hunger pangs, every now and then just fall off the wagon and over-indulge, or just plain simple gain weight on reduced calorie diet in a controlled e…
> There's no consistent evidence of large groups of people who started reducing calories and in return lost pounds predictably. The only inconsistencies come from inaccurate self reporting of caloric intake by study participants. There's been several meta-studies on this. Eating carbs/sugars is indeed a problem because of GI issues - you will feel hungry again soon after consuming sugar which makes it harder to stick…
Medicare has commissioned a research of calorie-restricted diets back in 2007, seeing how obesity was prevalent in the society and Medicare was on the hook to pay for consequences. The full study is available (among other sources) here http://motivatedandfit.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Diets_...
But in a nutshell, from intro paragraph, "there is little support for the notion that diets lead to lasting weight loss or health benefits."
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#30Running on a treadmill for an hour is about 600 calories. Eating an extra snack before bed can easily be that. To be calorie deficient and lose weight, it is so much easier to eat less than to exercise more. On top of that, exercising more can stimulate your appetite... leading to over eating. Basically you just have to be vigilant with not eating too much. I don't think counting calories is important, but 3 small me…
> Basically you just have to be vigilant with not eating too much. No. There's no consistent evidence of large groups of people who started reducing calories and in return lost pounds predictably. Subjects lose energy, become irritable, get headaches and migraines, have hunger pangs, every now and then just fall off the wagon and over-indulge, or just plain simple gain weight on reduced calorie diet in a controlled e…
Ethics prevent a real study where you lock the fatties in a cage and accurately measure the calories eaten.
Fatties lie like a pro when it comes to dieting.