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Exercising but Gaining Weight

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>While this study didn’t track the women’s eating and movement habits away from the lab, it is likely that those who gained weight began eating more and moving less when they weren’t on the treadmills, “probably without meaning to,” Dr. Gaesser said.

Without knowing the whole picture, it seems hard to draw any sort of meaningful conclusion. Weight loss is almost entirely diet-based.

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Running on a treadmill for an hour is about 600 calories. Eating an extra snack before bed can easily be that. To be calorie deficient and lose weight, it is so much easier to eat less than to exercise more. On top of that, exercising more can stimulate your appetite... leading to over eating. Basically you just have to be vigilant with not eating too much. I don't think counting calories is important, but 3 small meals (by american standards) or 2 regular meals a day, with low carbs, no sugar, and low dairy, will drop you to normal proportions very quickly.

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this is what I would have predicted from the description of the experimental setup. My understanding of human metabolism (which could be flawed, I'm a biochem PhD, not a nutrition PhD) For most people, regular aerobic exercise results in the body more regularly entering starvation mode and saving energy = storing fat. However, I suspect there are people with that signal defective, who can run like crazy and become thin as rails. For most of the rest of people, building muscle is a better strategy for losing weight.

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Running on a treadmill for an hour is about 600 calories. Eating an extra snack before bed can easily be that. To be calorie deficient and lose weight, it is so much easier to eat less than to exercise more. On top of that, exercising more can stimulate your appetite... leading to over eating. Basically you just have to be vigilant with not eating too much. I don't think counting calories is important, but 3 small me…

I made massive changes to my diet a few months ago, after being diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes. The doctor said diet and exercise needed. Trying to keep it simple I didn't worry about the exercise, just changed the diet, the weight started falling off easily, as long as I ate regularly and kept my carbs to what was required.

I started riding to work this week. I am so god damn hungry right now.

I think if you are really needing weight loss you need your doctor involved. There is so much I have learned through having blood test results etc to work from.

My tips if you are interested:

* Cut out any added sugar. No sugar in coffee or whatever. Easy way to reduce energy intake. No more soft drink. * Have enough carbs each meal so your body hormones etc are getting stuff to work with. * Stay away from processed foods, keep out of those aisles. * Make exercise a normal part of life and skip the gym. Gyms are demotivational hell holes of despair. Climb the stairs at work, ride the bike, park further away, just go for a walk around the block, walk randomly around the city to explore.

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Running on a treadmill for an hour is about 600 calories. Eating an extra snack before bed can easily be that. To be calorie deficient and lose weight, it is so much easier to eat less than to exercise more. On top of that, exercising more can stimulate your appetite... leading to over eating. Basically you just have to be vigilant with not eating too much. I don't think counting calories is important, but 3 small me…

WHAT you eat can be as important or even more important as HOW MUCH you eat. 99% of people still don't get that, they think a calorie is a calorie.

We are not simply calorie burning machines. The human body, metabolism and related systems are incredibly more complex than that.

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Running on a treadmill for an hour is about 600 calories. Eating an extra snack before bed can easily be that. To be calorie deficient and lose weight, it is so much easier to eat less than to exercise more. On top of that, exercising more can stimulate your appetite... leading to over eating. Basically you just have to be vigilant with not eating too much. I don't think counting calories is important, but 3 small me…

Exactly. The real problem with fat gain/loss isn't sedentary vs. active lifestyles, it's calorie consumption. This is why smokers who never work out are usually extremely thin- they typically eat very little. That isn't of course to suggest that that is healthier than being a non-smoker who is overweight, but rather to show in an extreme case that for fat loss exercise is extremely overrated while simple calorie restriction is not given nearly enough attention.

The formula that I know works for me is calorie restriction and limiting carb/sugar intake as much as possible. This requires rethinking what is pretty much considered gospel in the U.S. Pretty much all breakfast foods other than eggs are just sugar and carbs and extremely fattening. Additionally, most meals in U.S. restaurants are about three times the size of what is actually needed to sufficiently sustain you until your next meal. If you want to lose weight and keep it off, increase your protein intake and cut your overall calorie and sugar intake.

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this is what I would have predicted from the description of the experimental setup. My understanding of human metabolism (which could be flawed, I'm a biochem PhD, not a nutrition PhD) For most people, regular aerobic exercise results in the body more regularly entering starvation mode and saving energy = storing fat. However, I suspect there are people with that signal defective, who can run like crazy and become th…

Starvation mode in the sense that you seem to intend is a myth: http://examine.com/faq/how-do-i-stay-out-of-starvation-mode....

Probably. I'm not an expert.

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Running on a treadmill for an hour is about 600 calories. Eating an extra snack before bed can easily be that. To be calorie deficient and lose weight, it is so much easier to eat less than to exercise more. On top of that, exercising more can stimulate your appetite... leading to over eating. Basically you just have to be vigilant with not eating too much. I don't think counting calories is important, but 3 small me…

> Basically you just have to be vigilant with not eating too much.

No. There's no consistent evidence of large groups of people who started reducing calories and in return lost pounds predictably. Subjects lose energy, become irritable, get headaches and migraines, have hunger pangs, every now and then just fall off the wagon and over-indulge, or just plain simple gain weight on reduced calorie diet in a controlled experiment.

The book "Good Calories, Bad Calories" contains in-depth research on the topic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Calories,_Bad_Calories

> with low carbs, no sugar

Now you're onto something. Sugar and carbs stimulate insulin production, which then stimulates fat storage.

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Running on a treadmill for an hour is about 600 calories. Eating an extra snack before bed can easily be that. To be calorie deficient and lose weight, it is so much easier to eat less than to exercise more. On top of that, exercising more can stimulate your appetite... leading to over eating. Basically you just have to be vigilant with not eating too much. I don't think counting calories is important, but 3 small me…

I think your comment shows part of the problem, which isn't mean as a dig.

carbs, sugar, low dairy, small portions? What does this leave you to eat? The average person will go crazy following these rules.

The problem is people aren't realistic about what they are eating and their activity level. It is okay to eat poptarts, icecream, whatever it is you like. But do so in moderation. It's not okay to develop a habit of gluttony while on the couch.

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