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> the default iPhone settings has "Send as SMS" off I don't think this is true. I have a phone here I only use for development where I don't think I changed that setting and it's on.
Nope, I've had to reinstall iOS several times recently and I can confirm that every time, it was turned off. Maybe this depends on your SIM/carrier?
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Nope, I've had to reinstall iOS several times recently and I can confirm that every time, it was turned off. Maybe this depends on your SIM/carrier?
Are you sure the setting wasn't backed up? I've never had this issue and done many upgrades and fresh installs.
First we figured out how to disable cellular data, since the phone with the minimum data plan gets only 100MB of usage per month, it's definitely too much to ask that one should police their applications and "just not use data" -- I don't have to tell you how easy it would be to accidentally go over this cap if you are actually using apps or any features of the iPhone at all, and the incidental metered usage rates are just absolutely ridiculous.
Then we had to go and find the Send as SMS setting, which was disabled by default, because text messaging to other iPhones only ever worked when she was in a WiFi zone. She would receive a flurry of messages she was missing while out, immediately when she got home, obviously a symptom of this issue with iMessage.
Even now, with the setting enabled, other iPhones won't reach her if they try to send a message when she's not in WiFi zones, because they still have this setting disabled. You have to show all your friends with iPhones how to enable this setting, or to force one message through individually, or just bite the bullet and pay for a real data plan. It does seem to be all by design, some type of collusion with the phone carrier(s) to make more money on data plans.
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> the default iPhone settings has "Send as SMS" off I don't think this is true. I have a phone here I only use for development where I don't think I changed that setting and it's on.
Nope, I've had to reinstall iOS several times recently and I can confirm that every time, it was turned off. Maybe this depends on your SIM/carrier?
I say "network" because i think it goes from
- web sites : their developper and itunes connect website is a shame, app store discovery simply doesn't work, i've never even tried to open an icloud drive document on the web because of how poorly advertized it is, etc.. ,
- their web related technologies: icloud sync in general feels historically unreliable, even more so when you combine it with coredata, no server-side programming language (swift could be a fantastic opportunity but nothing was even advertized by apple), their network api on iOS was so raw that the most popular iOS lib is AFNetworking that was developped by a single guy (at least the first release) and made a world of difference.
- Even wifi and 3G connectivity is often buggy on iOS and MacOS: see the infamous bluetooth+wifi bug plaguing yosemite today.
And i could go on and on. It seems that network is just beyond Apple. Now of course it may be a bit harsh to them because they do have among the biggest user base for their service, but if you compare them to Google, Dropox, Facebook, Microsoft, Amazon and all the other tech giants of today, you can't ignore that there is definitely something special in that area with Apple.
I have a different problem - I did a T-Mobile tryout and had an iPhone with a different number for a week. And then I returned it. I can't remove that number. I hope the new person that got it doesn't get my messages. Hopefully you can only associate one number with iMessage.
We'll see if it fixes the big issue I'm having - a friend who ditched his iPhone can exchange SMS messages with me and others individually, but he can't participate in group threads anymore. No error, he just never receives the messages.
In my experience, it looks like iMessage stores metadata about the chat medium for a given conversation, and that's determined upon creating the conversation.
When sending individual messages, iMessage doesn't seem to attempt to determine whether conversation partner has gone dark from iMessage and fall back to MMS going forward. So everyone else gets the message, but not the person without an iPhone.
The most frustrating, for me, is that in a one-on-one conversation, if your iPhone attempts and fails to send an iMessage to someone, it will tell you that it failed and allow you to send it as SMS instead.
However, in a group, if it attempts to send an iMessage to a member of the group that does not actually have a device supporting iMessage, it will silently fail; you will not know that the message was not sent to that person, nor will you be able to force it to send as SMS even if you know they did not receive it.
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Group threads are done over MMS. They absolutely do exist out of iMessage.
I had never heard about them. Are they standard'
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Are you sure the setting wasn't backed up? I've never had this issue and done many upgrades and fresh installs.
I had to show this setting to my fiancée who just got her first iPhone, a 5c, as a free upgrade when her feature phone kicked it, and since she isn't paying for a data plan... First we figured out how to disable cellular data, since the phone with the minimum data plan gets only 100MB of usage per month, it's definitely too much to ask that one should police their applications and "just not use data" -- I don't have…