Apple finally makes it easy to disable iMessage

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Post by riaface » Mon, Nov 10, 2014, 1:51 PM UTC

Apple finally makes it easy to disable iMessage
wired.co.uk

Re: Apple finally makes it easy to disable iMessage

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Post by scrumper » Mon, Nov 10, 2014, 2:32 PM UTC

We'll see if it fixes the big issue I'm having - a friend who ditched his iPhone can exchange SMS messages with me and others individually, but he can't participate in group threads anymore. No error, he just never receives the messages.

Re: Apple finally makes it easy to disable iMessage

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Post by octo_t » Mon, Nov 10, 2014, 2:37 PM UTC

scrumper wrote: post #2

We'll see if it fixes the big issue I'm having - a friend who ditched his iPhone can exchange SMS messages with me and others individually, but he can't participate in group threads anymore. No error, he just never receives the messages.

how do you think group threads work? they don't exist outside the iMessage world at all.

Re: Apple finally makes it easy to disable iMessage

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Post by Ricapar » Mon, Nov 10, 2014, 2:41 PM UTC

octo_t wrote: post #3

scrumper wrote: post #2

We'll see if it fixes the big issue I'm having - a friend who ditched his iPhone can exchange SMS messages with me and others individually, but he can't participate in group threads anymore. No error, he just never receives the messages.

how do you think group threads work? they don't exist outside the iMessage world at all.

Group threads are done over MMS. They absolutely do exist out of iMessage.

Re: Apple finally makes it easy to disable iMessage

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Post by sudhirj » Mon, Nov 10, 2014, 2:42 PM UTC

Why is the list of countries so small? (India seems to be left out). That simply doesn't make sense for a global company. iMessages and iTunes SMSes worked perfectly, so it's not like they don't have capabilities here.

Re: Apple finally makes it easy to disable iMessage

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Post by berberous » Mon, Nov 10, 2014, 2:50 PM UTC

scrumper wrote: post #2

We'll see if it fixes the big issue I'm having - a friend who ditched his iPhone can exchange SMS messages with me and others individually, but he can't participate in group threads anymore. No error, he just never receives the messages.

What Android SMS app does he use? Tell him to try another. Group texts over MMS appears to be somewhat of a kludge, and different text apps support or do not support it to differing degrees. For some of the ones that do, 80% of their changelogs appear to be "Improved support for group texts / MMS bug fixes".

Re: Apple finally makes it easy to disable iMessage

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Post by ogreface » Mon, Nov 10, 2014, 2:51 PM UTC

scrumper wrote: post #2

We'll see if it fixes the big issue I'm having - a friend who ditched his iPhone can exchange SMS messages with me and others individually, but he can't participate in group threads anymore. No error, he just never receives the messages.

I have this exact issue. When I used the de-register tool, it said that I wasn't registered with iMessage. I don't have high hopes here...

Re: Apple finally makes it easy to disable iMessage

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Post by atonse » Mon, Nov 10, 2014, 2:52 PM UTC

I have a different problem - I did a T-Mobile tryout and had an iPhone with a different number for a week. And then I returned it. I can't remove that number. I hope the new person that got it doesn't get my messages.

Hopefully you can only associate one number with iMessage.

Re: Apple finally makes it easy to disable iMessage

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Post by leonk » Mon, Nov 10, 2014, 3:03 PM UTC

There's a much bigger issue, the default iPhone settings has "Send as SMS" off, this means that if a failed iMessage attempt occurs, it will just give up (rather than sending by SMS).

I've tried disabling iMessage on my iphone several times. I then have nothing connected to my iMessage account, but I still miss out on loads of messages from people who have the "Send by SMS" option disabled. Their devices are not told that I am no longer using iMessage.

I went to the apple store to ask about this, and I was told the only solution was to get all my contacts to ensure "Send by SMS" is turned on. Which is frankly absolutely ridiculous!

Re: Apple finally makes it easy to disable iMessage

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Post by riaface » Mon, Nov 10, 2014, 3:12 PM UTC

leonk wrote: post #9

There's a much bigger issue, the default iPhone settings has "Send as SMS" off, this means that if a failed iMessage attempt occurs, it will just give up (rather than sending by SMS). I've tried disabling iMessage on my iphone several times. I then have nothing connected to my iMessage account, but I still miss out on loads of messages from people who have the "Send by SMS" option disabled. Their devices are not told…

Did they say that with a straight face? I can't believe that would be serious advice! "You literally need to contact everyone in your address book and make sure they have the right settings."