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Peter Sunde: 'In prison, you become brain-dead'

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Re: Peter Sunde: 'In prison, you become brain-dead'

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I'm very surprised that they still maintain that all their income from advertising went to pay for their hosting infrastructure. TPB were hosted by PRQ which were owned by Fredrik Neij and Gottfrid Svartholm. Any bills PRQ sent them would be them paying themselves. That part of the story is really fishy to me. TPB has roughly the same type of advertising as one of the many porn tube sites. But a porn tube visitor eas…

Time on page differences?

Re: Peter Sunde: 'In prison, you become brain-dead'

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post #26

Did prison work? I mean, will he go out and think "piracy is bad!"? If not, then what was the point?

> If not, then what was the point? "He went to jail for piracy? I better stop pirating!"

The more plausible response is:

"He went to jail for piracy? I better be more careful!"

Re: Peter Sunde: 'In prison, you become brain-dead'

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post #40

Did prison work? I mean, will he go out and think "piracy is bad!"? If not, then what was the point?

Did you read TFA? It said he's not interested in piracy and TPB servers should have been set on fire years ago as far as he was concerned.

He's not interested in TPB, but what about his thoughts on piracy?

> “People ask if I would have done anything different if I could. The answer is no. This has been nothing more than five months of wasted time.”

Prison is supposed to be a place of rehabilitation. If there's no rehabilitation, there's no point to it.

Re: Peter Sunde: 'In prison, you become brain-dead'

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post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you read TFA? It said he's not interested in piracy and TPB servers should have been set on fire years ago as far as he was concerned.

He's not interested in TPB, but what about his thoughts on piracy? > “People ask if I would have done anything different if I could. The answer is no. This has been nothing more than five months of wasted time.” Prison is supposed to be a place of rehabilitation. If there's no rehabilitation, there's no point to it.

He doesn't seem the type that would say on record "yes master, I'll be a good boy now" if that's what you're looking for.

Re: Peter Sunde: 'In prison, you become brain-dead'

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post #5

I'm surprised a Swedish prison doesn't provide a vegan diet. Prisons in California provide a number of different diets, although I'm not sure about vegan. It's a large expense for them. But that said, I think there are times to give up on your vegan diet having to do with the culture that you find yourself immersed in. This has nothing to do with prisons, but if you're traveling in a culture where veganism is unheard…

How is veganism a luxury ?, Veganism doesn't imply that the diet only consist of organic produce and Vegetables are far far cheaper than meat.

Probably partially because there's stuff (think vitamin B12 for the most extreme example) you can't get or can't get easily from a vegan diet, needing (oftentimes expensive) supplementation.

Re: Peter Sunde: 'In prison, you become brain-dead'

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post #5

I'm surprised a Swedish prison doesn't provide a vegan diet. Prisons in California provide a number of different diets, although I'm not sure about vegan. It's a large expense for them. But that said, I think there are times to give up on your vegan diet having to do with the culture that you find yourself immersed in. This has nothing to do with prisons, but if you're traveling in a culture where veganism is unheard…

How is veganism a luxury ?, Veganism doesn't imply that the diet only consist of organic produce and Vegetables are far far cheaper than meat.

I'm guessing that it's a luxury of choice. Poor people can't chose what to eat.

Except that's obviously wrong because plenty of poor people have strict dietary requirements.

Re: Peter Sunde: 'In prison, you become brain-dead'

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At no point in the article do they mention how long is the sentence Sunde has to serve. It's important because a few months in prison (less than a year according to the article) is ridiculous compared to most prison sentences.

Of course, that doesn't mean that even a few weeks in prison isn't atrocious. But a lot of people have been through much more, sometimes when they weren't even guilty, and didn't have a voice to be heard.

Re: Peter Sunde: 'In prison, you become brain-dead'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, that's out of line. Appropriately, users killed the comment by flagging it (and the poster subsequently deleted it). All: when you see a comment that is truly bad for Hacker News, you can flag it by clicking 'link' to go to that comment's page and then clicking 'flag'. We monitor these flags and take action based on them, and over the last few months have slowly introduced a system where enough user flags will…

How are "[flagkilled]" comments denoted at /v0/item on the API? "deleted": true or something else?

They have "dead": true. "Deleted" means the commenter deleted it (or asked us to).

Re: Peter Sunde: 'In prison, you become brain-dead'

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post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're having multiple conversations here... I think western wealthy vegans don't have particularly strong morals or ethical values and are vegan for other elitist and classist reasons. I think if they were exposed to the real world they would have a more practical (and Buddhist) outlook on diet. I don't think they particularly care about animal rights either. You can have a moral and ethical existence and still eat e…

You still just seem to be asserting "My morals are right and theirs are wrong." I don't usually like to bring myself into things, but since we're getting into people's thoughts, I'll just be explicit here: I do not believe one can lead a fully moral existence while having animals killed or abused for your convenience. I'm not trying to force this on anyone, but I'm not going to have anyone force it out of me either.…

Who's talking about killing or abusing animals? Only you are. I'm talking about eating eggs, butter, and for the few cultures that eat it, cheese.

Even in the u.s. you can eat animal products where the animals lead healthy lives.

Re: Peter Sunde: 'In prison, you become brain-dead'

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post #28

I'm very surprised that they still maintain that all their income from advertising went to pay for their hosting infrastructure. TPB were hosted by PRQ which were owned by Fredrik Neij and Gottfrid Svartholm. Any bills PRQ sent them would be them paying themselves. That part of the story is really fishy to me. TPB has roughly the same type of advertising as one of the many porn tube sites. But a porn tube visitor eas…

I don't see how it is wrong to keep your business and yourself as separate entities (or your other business in this case). For example, isn't it good practice to keep track of office renting space even if you are a freelancer and work from home so you can take it in consideration when deciding how much to charge for your work?

What he's saying is that it is extremely suspicious that the TPB guys are saying they made no money from running TPB, when they had easily less than 1% of the costs of businesses running similar types and volumes of ads (i.e., adult websites), and furthermore, when they were allegedly hosting TPB at another company that they also owned.

It appears that the TPB guys are claiming that the hosting revenue earned by the second company should not be treated as the ill-gotten revenue earned by the TPB, even though they owned and controlled both companies. And indeed, there are laws in most nations and internationally addressing precisely those sorts of sketchy relationships.

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