Did prison work? I mean, will he go out and think "piracy is bad!"? If not, then what was the point?
Peter Sunde: 'In prison, you become brain-dead'
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Morals and ethics, staying true to one's values, that's worth making sacrifices for. I take it from your comment you don't understand that.
Traditional Buddhism actually says you should eat meat if it is given to you as well, and they have been vegetarians centuries longer than the hipsters. They consider wasting food worse than eating meat. You shouldn't allow something to be killed for you, but it is a waste if it has already been killed.
"they have been vegetarians centuries longer than the hipsters"
The implication here seems to be that tradition is a valid justification for beliefs and practices, whereas personal ethics are not; and indeed, anyone pursuing the latter is worthy of stereotyping and derision.
To put this thought in other terms: In the context of contemporary culture, wouldn't you call the Buddha a "hipster"?
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#24"After the verdict, Neij moved to Laos"
Strange timing. He was just arrested:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/pirate-bays-fredrik-neij-caught-tha...
Re: Peter Sunde: 'In prison, you become brain-dead'
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
The idea that morals are a fetish or a luxury strikes me as a dangerous point of view. If I went to a country where businessmen frequent 12-year-old prostitutes, would you expect me to do that as well so as to be a good guest? I kind of suspect that in reality, there are things some people do that you simply wouldn't, and you are specifically dismissing veganism because you do not agree with their morals. I wonder if…
Are you equating eating eggs and animal fat with having sex with twelve year olds? Are you going to Godwin the conversation next?
So you do simply disagree with their moral values, rather than believing morals should be cast aside when people around you hold different ones. That is what I figured.
But surely you can see why vegans, who do believe animals' rights are very important, would not see any more merit to your advice than you would to advice that encouraged you to abandon your deeply held values because they're inconvenient.
Re: Peter Sunde: 'In prison, you become brain-dead'
#26Did prison work? I mean, will he go out and think "piracy is bad!"? If not, then what was the point?
> If not, then what was the point?
"He went to jail for piracy? I better stop pirating!"
Re: Peter Sunde: 'In prison, you become brain-dead'
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Morals and ethics, staying true to one's values, that's worth making sacrifices for. I take it from your comment you don't understand that.
Traditional Buddhism actually says you should eat meat if it is given to you as well, and they have been vegetarians centuries longer than the hipsters. They consider wasting food worse than eating meat. You shouldn't allow something to be killed for you, but it is a waste if it has already been killed.
Logically, that requires the assumption that your decision to eat meat will not influence how much meat will be farmed in the future.
"Wasting" food when you're trying to send a signal not to produce so much of one type of food is not really waste.
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#28I'm very surprised that they still maintain that all their income from advertising went to pay for their hosting infrastructure. TPB were hosted by PRQ which were owned by Fredrik Neij and Gottfrid Svartholm. Any bills PRQ sent them would be them paying themselves.
That part of the story is really fishy to me. TPB has roughly the same type of advertising as one of the many porn tube sites. But a porn tube visitor easily costs the site tens of megabytes in streaming video while a torrent tracker only has to serve a few 10-30kb large torrent files. Yet the tube sites appear to be able to make some money, but TPB with less than 1% of the bandwidth costs/visitor couldn't?
Re: Peter Sunde: 'In prison, you become brain-dead'
#29Soon Fredrik Neij will join him. He was arrested in Thailand yesterday and will be transferred to Sweden in a couple of weeks.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
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Huh. I don't think I've ever before offended someone else on the internet enough to make them find and wave the shared last name in my face.
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