nitpick: headline slightly misleading as the crime isn't related to Pirate Bay other than its the same guy.
Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term
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Re: Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
Easy: breaking into computers is very, very fun, and when something feels like a game, it's easy to treat it that way. If you have a hard time believing anyone would do something like this, look at the 1990s: we got a book practically every year about one hacking group or another breaking into phone switches, credit reporting agencies, government and military networks, and financial institutions. If you can do it, an…
> Plenty of smart people did stuff like this. I know, I know a couple of them. I just don't understand them. Why cross that line? Why risk jail, your career, a whole pile of hardship? The real life consequences is what I'm wondering about, it's as if there is some kind of disconnect there between action and subsequent consequences. If it is only because it is 'unlikely that you're ever going to get caught' then that'…
To some extent I think it’s ”wired in”. Individuals vary a lot when it comes to risk awareness and risk tolerance. Take drugs for example. Some people will order new synthetic drugs from shady webshops without without batting an eye. Others will never touch anything else than alcohol.
Re: Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's a reasonable concern to have, but it's worth being aware that it's the exact same concern people had about Hans Reiser. Intelligence and judgement are orthogonal, and sometimes even in slight opposition. If you want to consider a different perspective: I'm an example of someone who does not have a hard time understand how someone who has enjoyed the rush of getting over on the entire media industry from behind…
The local police force here has a test to see if you 'have what it takes' to be a part of their cyber security squad or whatever they call it. On a lark I took part in it (the test was pretty simple, at least, that's what I thought). After taking the test (and knowing full well I had no intention to follow through on applying for a job with them, I just can't look at puzzles without getting this itch to solve them) I…
I live in Phnom Penh and I know some people who were acquainted with Gottfried. Without gossiping too much about him, some stories I've heard definitely characterize his behavior as "bordering on the insane".
Re: Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term
#54I think the long isolation by the Danish and Swedish state of Svartholm has been inhumane.
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-04/18/social-animal...
Re: Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term
#55Although the details of this story are interesting and compelling, my initial read of this story left me thinking, "Six years is lengthy, eh? I don't think that's considered 'lengthy' in the USA." Our prison system terrifies me.
I would not wish a prison sentence on my (personal) worst enemies. Locking someone up for years should be an absolute last resort. I can't really imagine a worse thing than essentially becoming a slave to some prison for years. No freedom. This is the main issue I have with "jail the bankers!" narratives: Just take away their money, putting them in jail doesn't accomplish anything. This seems to be a big issue with A…
If there was no jail time, then everyone would try to do that (What could be the worst scenario - just losing all your stolen money). That wouldn't work.
Re: Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
The local police force here has a test to see if you 'have what it takes' to be a part of their cyber security squad or whatever they call it. On a lark I took part in it (the test was pretty simple, at least, that's what I thought). After taking the test (and knowing full well I had no intention to follow through on applying for a job with them, I just can't look at puzzles without getting this itch to solve them) I…
I live in Phnom Penh and I know some people who were acquainted with Gottfried. Without gossiping too much about him, some stories I've heard definitely characterize his behavior as "bordering on the insane".
Intelligence can be a burden. Everyone has outlets. Don't be so judgemental.
Re: Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term
#57This is the part where I make a long statement urging apolitical youth to give a shit. Facts first.
CSC is a core part of the military industrial complex. They make mass surveillance databases and military systems and are active globally.
Gottfrid pissed off the both the MPAA and the US military/government. Look what they did to kimdotcom in total violation of law ... the NZ PM had to apologise personally. Gottfrid was illegally extradited from Cambodia. We're yet to see any evidence to the contrary, despite claims his visa was up apparently it wasn't, and this sort of put-on-plane-back-home treatment is not normal.. also, a fat Swedish aid package to Cambodia went through just after his extradition.
Gottfrid's mother is an academic and has documented the strange behaviour of her own (Swedish) government around his arrest and treatment.
Denmark is a place where it's almost impossible to use cash, where the ex-king kept a harem (it's now a bakery/hotel: I stayed in it), and where the authorities don't need a warrant to track your phone's location over the last year.
The accusation is that, sitting in Cambodia, Gottfrid broke in to some computers for no apparent reason causing zero harm. The reality is that he was mistreated against any notion of personal rights, dragged halfway around the world and locked up in solitary confinement which is generally considered torture under UN definitions. He has been passed from state to state being mistreated. There is still no proof he did anything wrong or harmed anyone. However, there seems to be evidence he helped Assange decrypt the embarassing US military video 'collateral damage'.
The only thing I conclude from this ruling is that the west in general is only a downward spiral in to totalitarianism, and that there is now an inter-state, overt attempt to suppress resistance (Assange, Dotcom, Anakata, etc.) with extreme media coverage to try to influence the rest of us.
Where are we to go? How are we to resist? There is the west and its fall-in-line economic treadmill, or the hinterlands and their available extra-judicial means of extradition (ala Anakata) or oppression. Assange's warning about a transnational dystopia seems ever-more pertinent. You know what I think after having met him? Anakata was trying to understand what's going on in Europe and the world at large, and his heart was in the right place. It fits with his character. After all, his mother is an academic, he was raised to ask questions.
Those who question are unjustly treated... the system is the problem. We can use the internet to create change. Don't let cryptocurrency abort as a foetus: it's being regulator-challenged to death. Don't let nominal democracy convince you to be placid. Ask your own questions, force some coverage for your discoveries, and change the world. Do it for Gottfrid.
Re: Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
Applebaum was an expert witness called in to testify on how a computer could be remote controlled, and the prosecutor tried to have him dismissed based on the retweet. He ended up testifying, so I guess the attempt wasn't successful.
I don't think that's a technically ignorant argument for a prosecutor to make. There's certainly a factual inference that could (but does not necessarily have to be drawn) between retweeting and being friends. Especially in the context of getting someone disqualified based on conflict of interest.
There are many people I retweet whom I have no connection to whatsoever. I like what they wrote and I think it's relevant to or interesting for my followers.
Re: Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
I live in Phnom Penh and I know some people who were acquainted with Gottfried. Without gossiping too much about him, some stories I've heard definitely characterize his behavior as "bordering on the insane".
Intelligence can be a burden. Everyone has outlets. Don't be so judgemental.
I am not judging him at all. He sounds like someone I would like a lot. I have had addiction problems in the past, and so some of my past behavior could have rightly been called insane too.
Re: Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think that's a technically ignorant argument for a prosecutor to make. There's certainly a factual inference that could (but does not necessarily have to be drawn) between retweeting and being friends. Especially in the context of getting someone disqualified based on conflict of interest.
There are many people I retweet whom I have no connection to whatsoever. I like what they wrote and I think it's relevant to or interesting for my followers.
There may also be people you had a drink with to whom I have no connection to whatsoever. It's not disqualifying but it is a piece of information.