I find it hard to believe that a guy as smart as Gottfrid would "hack" a government computer in 2012 when he's obviously extremely aware of the magnifying glass that's on him from governments and companies all over the world. > the pair downloaded police and social security files. What exactly are those? and what would he even want them for? > In a separate trial in 2013, Mr Warg and accomplice were found guilty of b…
Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term
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Re: Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term
#42Wow.. so in Sweden he first got 2 years, reduced to one. Imagine that being in the united states. What, 25 to life? Just saying, it's interesting how this concept of "justice" is treated so subjectively depending on where on this planet you are located. Nothing new under the sun, but still.
You don't think that does it justice? I don't know the details of the case, but imagine being locked up for two years yourself, regardless of the crime. I'm 21 and I know I would feel like it's forever . I'd do anything to better my life after that. At least that's what I tell myself now, never having been imprisoned. Now the person being tried here is not 21 anymore and he is actually guilty of something and should…
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
> People who break into computers usually use broken-into computers as proxies. That's possibly [1] true, but aren't those broken-into computers almost always the computers of ordinary users? How often do the people breaking into computers use broken-into computers belonging to a computer security expert who knows how to protect their systems from such break-ins? [1] Not sure about the "usually" part.
How often do the people breaking into computers use broken-into computers belonging to a computer security expert who knows how to protect their systems from such break-ins? I know it's counterintuitive, but all the time . Until only a few years ago, it was almost as if every security expert was being publicly owned constantly. Hackers hack each other. The dirty secret that explains why they would hack those who can…
Re: Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term
#44Wow.. so in Sweden he first got 2 years, reduced to one. Imagine that being in the united states. What, 25 to life? Just saying, it's interesting how this concept of "justice" is treated so subjectively depending on where on this planet you are located. Nothing new under the sun, but still.
Re: Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term
#45I find it hard to believe that a guy as smart as Gottfrid would "hack" a government computer in 2012 when he's obviously extremely aware of the magnifying glass that's on him from governments and companies all over the world. > the pair downloaded police and social security files. What exactly are those? and what would he even want them for? > In a separate trial in 2013, Mr Warg and accomplice were found guilty of b…
Prior to the trial against The Pirate Bay, when the police raided the ISP he was running with some partners, he was online and complained about it on a Swedish forum for web masters. Basically bragging about how they would never find any dirt on him, how the prosecutor was stupid, police were stupid and that "torrent linking site" just happened to be colocated on his servers. I could link to it, but it's in Swedish a…
Re: Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term
#46Although the details of this story are interesting and compelling, my initial read of this story left me thinking, "Six years is lengthy, eh? I don't think that's considered 'lengthy' in the USA." Our prison system terrifies me.
This is the main issue I have with "jail the bankers!" narratives: Just take away their money, putting them in jail doesn't accomplish anything.
This seems to be a big issue with American mentality in particular though. Such a big thirst for vengeance.
Re: Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
How often do the people breaking into computers use broken-into computers belonging to a computer security expert who knows how to protect their systems from such break-ins? I know it's counterintuitive, but all the time . Until only a few years ago, it was almost as if every security expert was being publicly owned constantly. Hackers hack each other. The dirty secret that explains why they would hack those who can…
In the 20+ year history of computer crime prosecution, outside of this disputed case, what is the next most likely case where a hacker effectively framed another hacker who was then successfully prosecuted for the offense?
Re: Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term
#48Wow.. so in Sweden he first got 2 years, reduced to one. Imagine that being in the united states. What, 25 to life? Just saying, it's interesting how this concept of "justice" is treated so subjectively depending on where on this planet you are located. Nothing new under the sun, but still.
Yeah, it's pretty scary to live in countries that have higher incarceration rates than China, Russia, or North Korea. They hand out 25 year sentences like candy.
Citation please.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, it's pretty scary to live in countries that have higher incarceration rates than China, Russia, or North Korea. They hand out 25 year sentences like candy.
"North Korea" Citation please.
Though I don't see anything definite on prison rates. Hard to get precise info out of N Korea. This absolute dismal circumstances the prisoners suffer is clear though.
Re: Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Warg faces lengthy jail term
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, it's pretty scary to live in countries that have higher incarceration rates than China, Russia, or North Korea. They hand out 25 year sentences like candy.
"North Korea" Citation please.
On a per capita rate, they would be about even with the United States (around 700 per 100k[1]) at the top end of estimates - which is worrying considering North Korea also practice a policy of "three generations of punishment" where entire families are collectively punished and you have children being born in camps.
The land of the free and the most totalitarian state in the world with a horrible history of human rights abuses - it really shouldn't even be a contest as to who is worse, but unfortunately it is.
[0] http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13618693-the-hidden-gulag
[1] Doesn't include territories, juveniles, military prison or immigration detention. Including those on parole or probation it increases to 3.2% of the population.