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Re: Tim Cook Speaks Up

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I wonder how carefully crafted this line was: ... I consider being gay among the greatest gifts God has given me. It seems a particularly odd thing to slip in, on so many levels.

Indeed, the mark of a well thought out and carefully crafted message that's not just personal, but also about necessary PR.

If that's what it takes to get people on-board this generation, I don't mind. But I hope lines like that can be omitted one day. Doesn't it just look incredibly silly?

Re: Tim Cook Speaks Up

#82
post #61

Being in such a progressive community (i.e. young nerdy people), it's easy to forget that this is an enormous deal for some people. A friend of mine recently came out as transgender and the general response was "oh, cool, good for you". It's hard to fathom what it's like for people who aren't in such a supportive environment. There are undoubtedly many people who will no longer purchase Apple products because of this…

If they won't buy Apple products because the CEO is gay, they probably shouldn't buy any computers at all, seeing as the entire field is built on the work of a gay man.

You shouldn't assume that bigots are rational.

Re: Tim Cook Speaks Up

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post #66
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they won't buy Apple products because the CEO is gay, they probably shouldn't buy any computers at all, seeing as the entire field is built on the work of a gay man.

Konrad Zuse was not gay.

hmm ,i guess he is talking about Alan Turing who was literaly sentenced to a horrible treatment for being gay.

That's one of the greatest shame of UK,it symbolizes bigotery in its purest form.

Re: Tim Cook Speaks Up

#84
post #55

Being in such a progressive community (i.e. young nerdy people), it's easy to forget that this is an enormous deal for some people. A friend of mine recently came out as transgender and the general response was "oh, cool, good for you". It's hard to fathom what it's like for people who aren't in such a supportive environment. There are undoubtedly many people who will no longer purchase Apple products because of this…

There seems to have been a cultural shift in the United States as of lately. Just a few years back most companies was afraid of "choosing" side, and kept things pretty neutral. But look at recent Disney movies and Coca-Cola commercials. They all give the impression that from a marketing perspective it's better to take a stand.

Where the homesexual agenda in Disney movies?

I'd prefer specific examples rather than just handwavey nonsense.

Re: Tim Cook Speaks Up

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post #66
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they won't buy Apple products because the CEO is gay, they probably shouldn't buy any computers at all, seeing as the entire field is built on the work of a gay man.

Konrad Zuse was not gay.

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Re: Tim Cook Speaks Up

#87
post #70

Is it OK to be proud to be a gay man? Is it OK to be proud to be a gay white man? If you answer one question with yes and one with no, there might be a problem.

(Assuming you're talking about in the Western world)

Do you not see a difference between being gay and being white? Really? Is it not obvious that one group has been historically repressed, attacked, discriminated against, etc. by its 'counter group', whilst the other has been the oppressor? These are about the most simplistic facts in social history, so I find it very difficult to believe you unaware of them; it seems more likely that you're choosing to ignore them in order to push some bizarre agenda. Just be honest and state the point you're actually trying to make.

Re: Tim Cook Speaks Up

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post #61

Being in such a progressive community (i.e. young nerdy people), it's easy to forget that this is an enormous deal for some people. A friend of mine recently came out as transgender and the general response was "oh, cool, good for you". It's hard to fathom what it's like for people who aren't in such a supportive environment. There are undoubtedly many people who will no longer purchase Apple products because of this…

If they won't buy Apple products because the CEO is gay, they probably shouldn't buy any computers at all, seeing as the entire field is built on the work of a gay man.

To be honest, I for one know very little about the important persons in , gay or not. We might all know about the terrible fate of Alan Turing, but I don't expect non-cs people to know.

(Thanks to gpvos for the correction of faith->fate. )

Re: Tim Cook Speaks Up

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post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, isn't that what every believer does, picks out the parts they like and ignore the ones they don't, showing once more they are their own moral guide and they know better than their god what is good and what is not. I wouldn't go as far as call it sophisticated. Sophisticated would be seeing the bronze age ramblings for bullshit that it is and devoting your life to learning what we actually do know of the univers…

> I wouldn't go as far as call it sophisticated. Sophisticated would be seeing the bronze age ramblings for bullshit that it is and devoting your life to learning what we actually do know of the universe we live in. I don't know about you super_mario, but it looks like Tim is doing a pretty good job with respect to learning about the universe we live in. On the face of it, certainly better than me. Also, I don't have…

When ever I hear people speak of god doing something for them, I immediately lose respect for the person. I always hope that perhaps one day they will grow up to the full stature of our species and use the very thing that makes us human, our reason instead of relying on now debunked lies our ancestor apes 2 chromosomes away from chimpanzee invented for themselves to appease, control and understand nature they feared.

Re: Tim Cook Speaks Up

#90

I'd like a world where announcements like this are considered utterly mundane.

In that world, funnily enough, there wouldn't be such announcements.

On this level both extremes are similar :)

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