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Re: Tim Cook Speaks Up

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Post by efaref »

broodbucket wrote: post #4

Being in such a progressive community (i.e. young nerdy people), it's easy to forget that this is an enormous deal for some people. A friend of mine recently came out as transgender and the general response was "oh, cool, good for you". It's hard to fathom what it's like for people who aren't in such a supportive environment. There are undoubtedly many people who will no longer purchase Apple products because of this…

If they won't buy Apple products because the CEO is gay, they probably shouldn't buy any computers at all, seeing as the entire field is built on the work of a gay man.

Re: Tim Cook Speaks Up

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Post by wozniacki »

colinramsay wrote: post #18

Strangely enough I'd see pictures of him at some gay pride thing and it never even occurred to me he might be gay. I think, more accurately, it didn't trigger anything in my brain that thought it mattered either way. Obviously this is the way it should be! It seems like Tim Cook isn't under any pressure to publicly announce this, so it seems he's doing it as a way of leveraging his position to help others who are exp…

Felix Salmon outed it on the very day of Tim Cook's appointment as the CEO.

I'm surprised that a story that was on Techmeme at that time, did not get broader attention, until now.

http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/08/25/dont-ignore...

Re: Tim Cook Speaks Up

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Post by mokkol »

super_mario wrote: post #50
iamben wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who said his god hates gays?

God himself. Read your bible. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_homosexuality

That is not the bible god wrote. That is a book written by people. And written far later than the year 0.

Re: Tim Cook Speaks Up

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Post by super_mario »

paullth wrote: post #59
super_mario wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

God himself. Read your bible. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_homosexuality

Oh, that Bible that god wrote. Right.

Isn't that what we have been told through the centuries that every word in the bible is inspired by god himself, and even (if you buy into the bullshit) god himself (i.e. Jesus) saying how every word of the law must be fulfilled.

Re: Tim Cook Speaks Up

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Post by _pmf_ »

efaref wrote: post #61
broodbucket wrote: post #4

Being in such a progressive community (i.e. young nerdy people), it's easy to forget that this is an enormous deal for some people. A friend of mine recently came out as transgender and the general response was "oh, cool, good for you". It's hard to fathom what it's like for people who aren't in such a supportive environment. There are undoubtedly many people who will no longer purchase Apple products because of this…

If they won't buy Apple products because the CEO is gay, they probably shouldn't buy any computers at all, seeing as the entire field is built on the work of a gay man.

Konrad Zuse was not gay.

Re: Tim Cook Speaks Up

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Post by downandout »

broodbucket wrote: post #4

Being in such a progressive community (i.e. young nerdy people), it's easy to forget that this is an enormous deal for some people. A friend of mine recently came out as transgender and the general response was "oh, cool, good for you". It's hard to fathom what it's like for people who aren't in such a supportive environment. There are undoubtedly many people who will no longer purchase Apple products because of this…

>There are undoubtedly many people who will no longer purchase Apple products because of this

I disagree. First, I think it was widely assumed that he was gay, and if it wasn't, he was accidentally outed during a live TV broadcast a few months ago by a CNBC reporter [1]. Second, the people that think this way probably already avoid Apple products, as both Tim Cook and Apple have been vocal on gay rights for quite some time. Finally, the one thing that these kinds of people hate more than those that disagree with their worldview is being personally inconvenienced. If they're already invested in the Apple ecosystem and are used to the iOS UX, they're going to keep paying Tim Cook for a new device every year.

[1] http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000288253 - about one minute in

Re: Tim Cook Speaks Up

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Post by mlrtime »

efaref wrote: post #61
broodbucket wrote: post #4

Being in such a progressive community (i.e. young nerdy people), it's easy to forget that this is an enormous deal for some people. A friend of mine recently came out as transgender and the general response was "oh, cool, good for you". It's hard to fathom what it's like for people who aren't in such a supportive environment. There are undoubtedly many people who will no longer purchase Apple products because of this…

If they won't buy Apple products because the CEO is gay, they probably shouldn't buy any computers at all, seeing as the entire field is built on the work of a gay man.

If there is a standard distribution of gay men and women in the population, wouldn't that be true of any product? Sure, it could be higher in tech fields however there is a high probability of a gay man or woman building most the products we use.

Re: Tim Cook Speaks Up

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Post by super_mario »

mokkol wrote: post #63
super_mario wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

God himself. Read your bible. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_homosexuality

That is not the bible god wrote. That is a book written by people. And written far later than the year 0.

Of course not. I'm an atheist, anti-theist in fact, and I know perfectly well the history of the bible how it was written, and that it is not the word of imaginary god etc.

I am just saying what the religious people say it is. And this is the irony.

Re: Tim Cook Speaks Up

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Post by _pmf_ »

Is it OK to be proud to be a gay man?

Is it OK to be proud to be a gay white man?

If you answer one question with yes and one with no, there might be a problem.

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