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Saturn V Flight Manual (1969) [pdf]

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Re: Saturn V Flight Manual (1969) [pdf]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just imagine how much good that could be accomplished if the time spent simply on meaningless snark about photo-sharing apps was instead productively deployed.

Just imagine how much good that could be accomplished if the time spent simply on meaningless comment on meaningless snark about photo-sharing apps was instead productively deployed.

Sick irony dude, mad original.

Re: Saturn V Flight Manual (1969) [pdf]

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I'd love to learn more about the Emergency Egress System described on pg192. It seems to me the chances of reaching the rubber vestibule or the coil-spring-cushioned blast room are fairly slim.

Some photos: https://scriptunasimages.wordpress.com/2012/11/23/inside-nas...

Re: Saturn V Flight Manual (1969) [pdf]

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I can't remember why, but I've had the 1968 version of this flight manual on my hard drive for a while. My version is much higher quality. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8iAUeIURaT8ZS1PbTlMTjlCams...

This is excellent. I would love to have a bound version of this to sit on my desk as a conversation piece.

Re: Saturn V Flight Manual (1969) [pdf]

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It is absolutely crazy to think about how NASA got to the moon in freakin' 1969. Ten years ago, we didn't have FB, YouTube, widespread WiFi, flatscreen TVs, smartphones, LTE... That we landed a spaceship on the moon 4.5 times longer ago (45 years) when the state of the art was a photocopy machine is truly mindblowing.

And there were people alive at the time who remembered the airplane being invented. Today, we can tell astounding stories to our snapchatting kids of the time when men walked on the moon.

I was lucky enough to once see a Mitsubishi "Zero" fighter in Japan once being spun up and taxi'ing about. I later found out from the company the owns it that they knew the pilot who flew it in WWII Personally.

That pilot had started his career on biplanes and ended it (in a crash, unfortunately) flying F-4 Phantom Jets (Commonly called Third generation Jets).

In my mind these eras of flight have been so ... seperated that I could not really imagine one man flying basically such a wide range of technology (and of course, he saw the moon landings).

Re: Saturn V Flight Manual (1969) [pdf]

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It is absolutely crazy to think about how NASA got to the moon in freakin' 1969. Ten years ago, we didn't have FB, YouTube, widespread WiFi, flatscreen TVs, smartphones, LTE... That we landed a spaceship on the moon 4.5 times longer ago (45 years) when the state of the art was a photocopy machine is truly mindblowing.

And there were people alive at the time who remembered the airplane being invented. Today, we can tell astounding stories to our snapchatting kids of the time when men walked on the moon.

Yeah, the delta in technology that bookends a life is getting bigger fast.

My Dad told me that his first airplane ride was as a kid when a barnstormer put on a show at his town in Utah. The pilot/showman took him up in his Jenny:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtiss_JN-4

The kicker is that Dad told me this when he, Mom, and I were at flight level 350 about halfway to Hawaii for their 61st wedding anniversary, flying in a Boeing 757.

From an iffy ragwing biplane to a routine miracle world-spanning machine in his lifetime. Wonder if I'll get to see the equivalent of 757 service to Mars before I shuffle off...

Re: Saturn V Flight Manual (1969) [pdf]

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I can't remember why, but I've had the 1968 version of this flight manual on my hard drive for a while. My version is much higher quality. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8iAUeIURaT8ZS1PbTlMTjlCams...

This is excellent. I would love to have a bound version of this to sit on my desk as a conversation piece.

Prehaps this?

http://www.amazon.com/Saturn-V-Flight-Manual-NASA/dp/1935700...

Re: Saturn V Flight Manual (1969) [pdf]

#38
What boggles the mind isn't that this was possible in the 60s, it's that it required such diverse and comprehensive achievements. It wasn't just a rocket. It's a very (!) long document but these stand out:

(regarding the flight computers)

    The powered flight major loop contains guidance and navigation calculations,
    timekeeping, and all repetitive functions which do not occur on an interrupt
    basis. 

    The minor loop contains the platform gimbal angle and accelerometer sampling
    routines and control system computations.  Since the minor loop is involved
    with vehicle control, minor loop computations are executed at the rate of 25
    times per second during the powered phase of flight.  However, in earth
    orbit, a rate of only ten executions per second is required for satisfactory
    vehicle control. 

    The execution time for any given major loop, complete with minor loop
    computations and interrupts, is not fixed. 
(regarding the Vehicle Assembly Building)

    The high bay area which is located in the northern section of the building,
    is approximately 525 feet high, 518 feet wide, and 442 feet long.  It
    contains four checkout bays, each capable of accommodating a fully
    assembled, Saturn V space vehicle. 
[it's not a rocket, it's a space vehicle. Kind of like boats aren't vessels]

    Each pair of opposite checkout bays is served by a 250-ton bridge crane with
    a hook height of 462 feet.

Re: Saturn V Flight Manual (1969) [pdf]

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It is absolutely crazy to think about how NASA got to the moon in freakin' 1969. Ten years ago, we didn't have FB, YouTube, widespread WiFi, flatscreen TVs, smartphones, LTE... That we landed a spaceship on the moon 4.5 times longer ago (45 years) when the state of the art was a photocopy machine is truly mindblowing.

Consider in 1969--much less going back to when many of the design decisions were made. (And by "no" here, I mean no in anything approaching mainstream.) No electronic calculators, just barely color television, mostly rotary dial telephones. Moore's Law had only recently been coined. No PCs of course. No Internet in any meaningful sense.

There were (quite capable) desktop calculators, but just barely (1968): http://www.hpmuseum.org/hp9100.htm

But color TV had been widely available for about a decade. In fact, I watched the 1969 moon landings on my parents 1961 color Zenith. (They had rotary phone well into the 80s, however.)

Re: Saturn V Flight Manual (1969) [pdf]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Consider in 1969--much less going back to when many of the design decisions were made. (And by "no" here, I mean no in anything approaching mainstream.) No electronic calculators, just barely color television, mostly rotary dial telephones. Moore's Law had only recently been coined. No PCs of course. No Internet in any meaningful sense.

All of what you say is true, however it's not as bad as you might think. Once upon a time were these magical devices called "mainframes" [1], and in the 1960s they were quite powerful (for that era). Most engineering work was done in FORTRAN, and it ran very efficiently on the hardware. There were (usually) no CPU cycle sucking GUIs to slow down the computers. As a high school student in the early 1970s I was privile…

I've programmed on an IBM 360 in FORTRAN :-) so I knew they had computers. NASA has always been one of the big US government buyers of computer technology. The technology they had to work with on the ground was certainly relatively more sophisticated than what they could fit into the spacecraft and expect to run reliably.
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