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Saturn V Flight Manual (1969) [pdf]

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Re: Saturn V Flight Manual (1969) [pdf]

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It is absolutely crazy to think about how NASA got to the moon in freakin' 1969. Ten years ago, we didn't have FB, YouTube, widespread WiFi, flatscreen TVs, smartphones, LTE... That we landed a spaceship on the moon 4.5 times longer ago (45 years) when the state of the art was a photocopy machine is truly mindblowing.

Consider in 1969--much less going back to when many of the design decisions were made. (And by "no" here, I mean no in anything approaching mainstream.) No electronic calculators, just barely color television, mostly rotary dial telephones. Moore's Law had only recently been coined. No PCs of course. No Internet in any meaningful sense.

Hmmm... at what point do we start questioning the veracity of those moon landing photos and videos? :)

Re: Saturn V Flight Manual (1969) [pdf]

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It is absolutely crazy to think about how NASA got to the moon in freakin' 1969. Ten years ago, we didn't have FB, YouTube, widespread WiFi, flatscreen TVs, smartphones, LTE... That we landed a spaceship on the moon 4.5 times longer ago (45 years) when the state of the art was a photocopy machine is truly mindblowing.

What's even more mind blowing is the amount of time we've wasted by pumping money, time and resources into useless wars and spying infrastructures. Imagine what mankind could have accomplished if WW2 truly was the last war and all energy could have gone into getting of this planet. I'm sure we would have had "real" hover boards by now..

Re: Saturn V Flight Manual (1969) [pdf]

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Man, I would have given up some serious allowance money for this back when the Apollo program was active. Reading through the descriptions of some of the flight and launch control systems gives me a high level of respect for the software folk responsible. Sure, the systems were simple compared to today, but there was no room for any of the sloppiness we see passed off as "software engineering" in the interim years. "…

I went to a talk by one of the people responsible for the Apollo guidance software (Dr. Battin from what was in the 1960s the MIT Instrumentation Lab) a few years ago. One of his stories was about how some astronauts visited Raytheon where the code was being effectively "woven" into the core memory. As he explained it, one of the purposes of the visit was to impress upon those (women) who were making the core memorie…

The "LOL" (Little Old Lady) method https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P12r8DKHsak#t=38

Re: Saturn V Flight Manual (1969) [pdf]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Consider in 1969--much less going back to when many of the design decisions were made. (And by "no" here, I mean no in anything approaching mainstream.) No electronic calculators, just barely color television, mostly rotary dial telephones. Moore's Law had only recently been coined. No PCs of course. No Internet in any meaningful sense.

Hmmm... at what point do we start questioning the veracity of those moon landing photos and videos? :)

"By the late 1960s they did the technical ability, not to mention the requisite madness, to send three guys to the moon and back. They did not have the technology to fake it on video." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGXTF6bs1IU

Re: Saturn V Flight Manual (1969) [pdf]

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post #18

It is absolutely crazy to think about how NASA got to the moon in freakin' 1969. Ten years ago, we didn't have FB, YouTube, widespread WiFi, flatscreen TVs, smartphones, LTE... That we landed a spaceship on the moon 4.5 times longer ago (45 years) when the state of the art was a photocopy machine is truly mindblowing.

Consider in 1969--much less going back to when many of the design decisions were made. (And by "no" here, I mean no in anything approaching mainstream.) No electronic calculators, just barely color television, mostly rotary dial telephones. Moore's Law had only recently been coined. No PCs of course. No Internet in any meaningful sense.

All of what you say is true, however it's not as bad as you might think. Once upon a time were these magical devices called "mainframes" [1], and in the 1960s they were quite powerful (for that era).

Most engineering work was done in FORTRAN, and it ran very efficiently on the hardware. There were (usually) no CPU cycle sucking GUIs to slow down the computers.

As a high school student in the early 1970s I was privileged to take a summer course at the Goddard Institute for Space Studies [2] where they had an IBM 360/95 mainframe [3] for the scientists to take turns using (job entry by punched cards, job output by paper printout).

It's been so many years, and it was only casually explained to me, but I think NASA used three other 360/95 mainframes (the IBM top of the line at the time) located at the Goddard Space Flight Center [4] in Greenbelt MD to track the Apollo missions. I think these ran the same program more-or-less in triplicate (but there was no hardware for syncing). I think NASA also had an IBM 7094 [5] running an independently written program as a backup in case something went wrong with the S/360 computers.

Trust me, these computers were very very capable for the time. It's not like the primitive computer onboard the Apollo LEM. Mainframes were quite up to the task.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainframe_computer#History [2] bonus points for whoever looks up that institution in Wikipedia and checks the picture to see what's located on the ground floor [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_System/360#Table_of_System.... [4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goddard_Space_Flight_Center [5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_7090#Notable_applications

Re: Saturn V Flight Manual (1969) [pdf]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmmm... at what point do we start questioning the veracity of those moon landing photos and videos? :)

"By the late 1960s they did the technical ability, not to mention the requisite madness, to send three guys to the moon and back. They did not have the technology to fake it on video." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGXTF6bs1IU

Great video. For others wondering, it's a video that debunks conspiracy theories about faking the moon landing by saying it was technically possible to fly to the moon but not to fake it. It goes into the logistics of how a moon landing would be faked (film capacity and technical capabilities of cameras in the 60's).

Fun explanation. "he did the math"

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