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Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager

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Re: Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager

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Post by 432uihf23 »

snake_plissken wrote: post #266

In terms of managing programs/packages, what is wrong with Add-Remove Programs/Programs and Features? I've always found these to be satisfactory. Or am missing the point here? In terms of automatically retrieving the correct dependencies, I can see this being pretty useful, even if most programs already automatically install the dependencies or at least let you know that you don't have them. Maybe I'll find myself in…

Installing and updating Windows programs is painfully slow and complicated compared to Linux. Instead of searching for a program and clicking "Install", you have to find and navigate to the website, download the installer, execute it, grant permissions to run, uncheck adware boxes, choose install options and click exit. For every single program. Many programs still make you do the same for every update and that's one of the reasons most users don't keep their software up-to-date.

Installing and managing software is easily my biggest gripe with Windows right now.

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Post by dezgeg »

wfjackson wrote: post #53
cperciva wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If Windows 10 was built on top of Linux I'd get a lot more excited. GPL would make that impossible. There are reasons OS X is based on BSD, and not all of them are about technical superiority.

WebOS and Jolla had/have a ton of closed source components(pretty much the whole GUI) but run on top of Linux so there's a loophole somehere.

There is no loophole, the Linux license explicitly allows usermode apps to use the (GPL-licensed) interface headers without requiring the app to be GPL. See https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/COPYING

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Post by ForHackernews »

piyush_soni wrote: post #265
pluma wrote: post #180

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If we combine BSD and Linux, it's actually not so bad. * Globally, Android pretty much owns the mobile market. Android is a Linux. * Most servers run some flavour of Linux or BSD. * Although Windows still dominates the desktop market, a healthy share of the laptop market belongs to OS X, which is (partially) based on BSD. This isn't exactly how the Open Source crowd envisioned "Linux on the desktop", but if the goal…

So while Linux users can feel happy that Android is Linux under the covers, really, the real reason it is so popular is that it's so different from Linux. For an average user, thankfully it doesn't have any traits of Linux. Like, when I install Android on my machine, I don't have to go and manually edit the xorg.conf file so that the machine knows my monitor can take 1280 x 800 resolution and not just 640 by 480, aft…

To be fair, that's because you're buying a phone/tablet with limited, non-replaceable hardware and the software has been customized by the manufacturer to work with that hardware.

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Post by Mikeb85 »

tyho wrote: post #230
nailer wrote: post #146

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> Good package management on Linux is owed largely to the tireless voices such as Stallman I thought it was due to the people designing the package managers. The people who run the repos Stallman-like end up shipping IceWeasel and Chromium and telling long boring stories to someone who just wanted Firefox and Chrome.

It was not the decision of debian to rebrand Firefox. Mozilla forced them to. Debian wanted to be able to ship security patches whenever they pleased, Mozilla required that they shipped Firefox stock, even if that meant waiting for Mozilla to approve security patches. Chrome is not open source. Chrome tracks you. Chromium is open source and does not track you. Other than the slight branding differences, a user would…

> Chrome is not open source. Chrome tracks you. Chromium is open source and does not track you.

I'm pretty sure neither Chrome nor Chromium 'track you'. When you sign in to your Google account, then they keep track of your searches, to provide things like auto-complete, remember your book marks, and provide hints, location services, etc...

There's a huge difference between tracking you personally, and reading some information, keeping it in a database and providing you a better service later... (not going to lie, yesterday my boss sent me an email for a meeting, and GMail then automatically made a reminder for me and pushed it to my phone via Google Now - pretty damn awesome if you ask me).

The only differences I've seen between Chromium and Chrome is that Chromium lacks the Pepper plugin by default (which provides Flash), and the Hangouts binary blob. All the 'tracking' if you really want to call it that (I personally wouldn't), happens through Google services, not Chrome per se...

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Post by amaks »

melling wrote: post #4

I'm not a Windows user so maybe I'm way off, but wouldn't adding Cortana go much farther in getting people to upgrade? How's the Kinect support in Windows? Quite honestly, Microsoft is only competing against itself. How many XP uses are still out there? A couple hundred couple hundred million? Give them a reason to get excited.

Regarding Kinect support in Windows -- is it IKinect, or Kinect.NET?

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Post by marcosdumay »

Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #255
tyho wrote: post #230

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It was not the decision of debian to rebrand Firefox. Mozilla forced them to. Debian wanted to be able to ship security patches whenever they pleased, Mozilla required that they shipped Firefox stock, even if that meant waiting for Mozilla to approve security patches. Chrome is not open source. Chrome tracks you. Chromium is open source and does not track you. Other than the slight branding differences, a user would…

I think you missed the point.

I think YOU missed the point.

If Debian were subjected to the wishes of the authors of every piece of software they distribute, there would be no Debian.

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Post by nailer »

coldtea wrote: post #178
nailer wrote: post #142

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Desktop computing doesn't really matter that much anymore. I'm also coming down harshly on Linux here - they tried to be a better desktop OS rather than skate to where the puck was moving to. The vast majority of actual 'personal computing' is phones and tablets. PCs are content creation devices. Asides from Android obviously not being the traditional stack - no glibc, no KDE or GNOME - AOSP isn't very useful compare…

> Desktop computing doesn't really matter that much anymore. For whom? Companies might make more money selling mobile devices compared to desktop/laptop PCs but that doesn't equate to the inane statement oft repeated that "desktop computing doesn't really matter that much anymore". Desktop (including laptops of course) is where 99% of the world's actual office, accounting, design, writing, programming, editing etc, c…

To consumers who don't create content - as the comment you're replying to clearly states.
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