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Re: Show HN: VirtKick – Self-hosted Digital Ocean

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This looks cool, but I can't see why contributors should assign you copyright so you can sell proprietary versions of VirtKick. Very few free software projects have copyright assignment requirements (GNU being a notable exception).

CLA's are both good and bad. The good thing is that the software project has more flexibility when it comes to licenses, but the bad is that they have more flexibility when it comes to licenses...

Re: Show HN: VirtKick – Self-hosted Digital Ocean

#52
post #47

This looks interesting: I've often wanted something with more features than just kvm+libvirt but less complexity than OpenStack or other "private cloud" projects. The one thing that worries me about the pitch is the emphasis on the management panel. I don't want to create a VM in 5 clicks, I want to create it in one API call.

Thanks for your comment. UI comes first as every user will hit it. API comes next. We planned DigitalOcean-compatible API altogether with a CLI. Looks like we removed this from our website by mistake (will get it back real quick), but it's listed in our IGG campaign: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/virtkick-take-cloud-back

Re: Show HN: VirtKick – Self-hosted Digital Ocean

#54
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A complete re-working - as OpenStack is too big if you're not a corporation with a very big infrastructure.

That's really not true. I run it on small deployments all the time: http://www.stackgeek.com/guides/gettingstarted.html

I have used your scripts and I'm quite grateful for the time they have saved me. However, the end result is not a fully functional OpenStack installation. I have no idea how much longer that will take, I'm still working on getting public and private networks configured properly, getting floating IPs to work at all, etc.

With Juno imminent, I might just start over and hope the Juno installation isn't so difficult, though that doesn't seem to be a top priority for the developers.

VirtKick is closer to a scale that I have time to manage, I think. Of course there are tradeoffs; with the big players running OpenStack in production, security fixes are available quickly and I love/hate the short release cycle. VirtKick has layers of security risks and (so far) no big-money contributors who need to get fixes out quickly.

Re: Show HN: VirtKick – Self-hosted Digital Ocean

#55
So what exactly is the advantage of using this layer over the existing libvirt ecosystem? If this is supposed to manage your VMs for you instead of you using the existing libvirt tools, I can see a number of disadvantages.

* No virt-manager with SPICE, networking configuration, and other features

* No virt-install for very easy creation of VMs, even straight from distro repository URLs

* No virsh for command-line management

* In general, no seamless use of any of the vast ecosystem of tools around libvirt

Is the only advantage that it supports Docker? In that case, why not just add support for Docker into libvirt, and Docker images into virt-install? Is the advantage that it's a web UI for libvirt? There are certainly plenty of those already, but I guess creating another one is fine. I really don't see the use-case.

Re: Show HN: VirtKick – Self-hosted Digital Ocean

#56
post #52
post #47

This looks interesting: I've often wanted something with more features than just kvm+libvirt but less complexity than OpenStack or other "private cloud" projects. The one thing that worries me about the pitch is the emphasis on the management panel. I don't want to create a VM in 5 clicks, I want to create it in one API call.

Thanks for your comment. UI comes first as every user will hit it. API comes next. We planned DigitalOcean-compatible API altogether with a CLI. Looks like we removed this from our website by mistake (will get it back real quick), but it's listed in our IGG campaign: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/virtkick-take-cloud-back

That sounds like a good approach; reimplementing an existing API like EC2 or DO makes it easier to integrate your software with tools like Vagrant and Terraform.

Re: Show HN: VirtKick – Self-hosted Digital Ocean

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post #26

It seems we have HN'ed the service; after creating a Debian image: "internal error: pool 'HDD' has asynchronous jobs running."

Yep. Our 128 GB hypervisor wasn't enough. We redirected traffic to a static HTML prototype, so - at least - you guys have a chance to see the design and planned features. https://demo.virtkick.io/
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