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Re: Show HN: VirtKick – Self-hosted Digital Ocean

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Post by MoOmer »

duaneb wrote: post #36
davexunit wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Virtkick has a web application component, which makes the AGPL a great choice. Without the 'Affero' component, anyone could host a version of VirtKick with proprietary modifications.

What's wrong with that? Don't we want to encourage proprietary companies to host using open software?

The point would be to enforce the openness of changes to the source. If you go in and add some things, change the design etc. and pass it off as your own, someone can take the changes you've made and do the same. Not only that, but you're required, not just encouraged, to make public any changes, which may or may not be improvements.

Re: Show HN: VirtKick – Self-hosted Digital Ocean

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Post by angersock »

Nowaker wrote: post #24
Communitivity wrote: post #18

This is a great project. However, given the nature of the project and the license, would this then require any software hosted with it to be AGPLv3? Could I run software that is a mix of Apache, MIT, and Erlang Public License in a VirtKick container without violating AGPLv3?

Our intention is that you share code back to the project if you modified it and added some new great features. :) If I'm not wrong, it only applies to the modified source code, and not the data/machines that you work with. http://stackoverflow.com/a/18406382/504845

So, as your link mentions...why not just use GPL?

It's good enough for Linux.

Re: Show HN: VirtKick – Self-hosted Digital Ocean

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Post by dec0dedab0de »

angersock wrote: post #42
Nowaker wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Our intention is that you share code back to the project if you modified it and added some new great features. :) If I'm not wrong, it only applies to the modified source code, and not the data/machines that you work with. http://stackoverflow.com/a/18406382/504845

So, as your link mentions...why not just use GPL? It's good enough for Linux.

likely because it could be a hosted application. If he were to choose the GPL then someone could make modifications and host them as a competitive advantage without sharing the modifications to their users.

Re: Show HN: VirtKick – Self-hosted Digital Ocean

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Post by sciurus »

Nowaker wrote: post #5
salesforce_wha wrote: post #2

So what is this? A project based off of openstack, a complete re-working of an openstack-like environment or something different?

A complete re-working - as OpenStack is too big if you're not a corporation with a very big infrastructure.

It would be nice to see an architecture diagram, or just a list of the planned components and their responsibilities.

Re: Show HN: VirtKick – Self-hosted Digital Ocean

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Post by sciurus »

This looks interesting: I've often wanted something with more features than just kvm+libvirt but less complexity than OpenStack or other "private cloud" projects. The one thing that worries me about the pitch is the emphasis on the management panel. I don't want to create a VM in 5 clicks, I want to create it in one API call.

Re: Show HN: VirtKick – Self-hosted Digital Ocean

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Post by Nowaker »

eltondegeneres wrote: post #46

This looks cool, but I can't see why contributors should assign you copyright so you can sell proprietary versions of VirtKick. Very few free software projects have copyright assignment requirements (GNU being a notable exception).

We don't intend to sell modified proprietary versions. In fact, we planned to re-release it under MIT. Just see on the bottom: "Get excited: (...), MIT..." http://goo.gl/w64Ic5 from https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/virtkick-take-cloud-back We'd just want to get funded, so we can work on it without worrying about other things.
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