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Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager

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Re: Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager

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Post by josteink »

bnt wrote: post #101

But why "Install-Package", "Add-Package" and "Update-Package" - it's not like you can install, add or update anything else with this tool.

I take it you don't have much experience with powershell, which is fair enough. Most people don't.

Long story short: These are "Commandlets", commands provided to your PowerShell-session through extension-modules.

The PowerShell convention for command-names are Verb-Noun, like for instance Get-DiskImage or whatever, so it makes sense that OneGet builds on these.

Re: Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager

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Post by lucb1e »

pjc50 wrote: post #176
lucb1e wrote: post #133

Good step, now the rest of Windows... I mean, Program Files containing the binaries is not even in %PATH%. I assume improvements will be made here too, but I wonder.

One problem with putting every subdirectory of Program Files in the path is that most of them contain 'setup.exe' and 'uninstall.exe'. Type "uninstall" at the command line to uninstall a random program!

Or we could use a real binaries path (e.g. %programfiles%/bin) and symlink (NTFS supports symlinks I think) the binaries from there. Then include that in the %path%.

There are many ways to do this but until Windows and its developers decide on one, it'll remain a big mess.

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Post by vomitcuddle »

pjc50 wrote: post #175
nailer wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not really sure that relationship with AV vendors is as strong these days for MS to harm Windows UX.

Microsoft Security Essentials is actively trying to put them out of business. I had the impression that it was the OEMs who liked bundling terrible software. I was looking at tablet PCs and they have some marketing term for "verified by Microsoft not to contain preinstalled crapware". Android doesn't have that.

>Android doesn't have that

Android has Nexus and Google Play Edition phones.

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Post by aruggirello »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #188
JetSpiegel wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you install Android on a desktop? Then it's not a desktop OS. It's quite simple.

Define "desktop" and we'll tell you. You can run Android on a base system that is connected to a standard desktop monitor, printer, mouse and keyboard.

Yep, that's what I do. I even have an Android X86 running in VirtualBox in my Linux box - and several apps installed. No problem with keyboard and mouse, emulated full HD display, audio... even Google voice recognition works!

Of course I use it mostly to play around and do tests.

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Post by Touche »

nailer wrote: post #148
spain wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty much. While it's cool coming from Microsoft I'm willing to bet it's going to be an inferior implementation one way or another compared to Linux distributions.

Why? Powershell innovated a lot over bash - try and kill all processes started in the last hour with bash, then do the same with posh (hint: a regex is a terrible, terrible way to deal with time). MS could do something good with package management.

Try writing a Powershell cmdlet in a language not designed by Microsoft.

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Post by tshepang »

awalton wrote: post #138
hk__2 wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a deliberately contrived example, the only line that matter is the last one: sudo apt-get install firefox

Firefox isn't in the Debian repos, unfortunately. But Iceweasel is installed by default on the desktop, so there's that. Unfortunately, Iceweasel is chronically behind mainline Firefox and suffers from many horrifying bugs that make it almost not worth the effort to try to use, which is why the grandparent comment goes through so much effort (Well, outside of the obviously well planted troll.) Also, Linux Mint is a t…

What horrifying Iceweasel bugs did you experience?

Re: Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager

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Post by chippy »

Yuioup wrote: post #69

Sorry, penguin lovers — if you thought that 2015, in the heinous wake of Windows 8, would finally be the year of desktop Linux, you were sadly mistaken. If you’ve ever ventured into the dark and mysterious land of Linutopia, where Ubutologists and Debianites reign, ... Wow what a snarky article! I guess Extremetech does not like Linux at all...

The article was not snarky - only that first paragraph was. I imagine it must have made many people stop reading there though.

Re: Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager

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Post by edraferi »

ygra wrote: post #192
pluma wrote: post #180

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If we combine BSD and Linux, it's actually not so bad. * Globally, Android pretty much owns the mobile market. Android is a Linux. * Most servers run some flavour of Linux or BSD. * Although Windows still dominates the desktop market, a healthy share of the laptop market belongs to OS X, which is (partially) based on BSD. This isn't exactly how the Open Source crowd envisioned "Linux on the desktop", but if the goal…

> Although Windows still dominates the desktop market, a huge share of the laptop market belongs to OS X, which is (partially) based on BSD. Shouldn't Apple be somewhere in this table, then? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_share_of_personal_comput... I think you're hugely overestimating Apple's market share in laptops.

That table is global market share. The source article for the 2013 data[1] shows Apple in third place for 2013Q4 market share within the United States:

Firm (4Q13 US Market Share) HP (26.5%) Dell (22.8%) Apple (13.7%)

[1] http://www.gartner.com/newsroom/id/2647517

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