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Ad blocker that clicks on the ads

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Re: Ad blocker that clicks on the ads

#141
The people behind the adblockers should throw their weight around a bit and issue some guidelines for what kind of advertising is acceptable and just whitelist the good guys.

I prefer being shown useles add that don't interest me, than being shown ads for the thing I just bought or googled as it is today. Most as networks and advertisers probably find that completely bonkers "but you get consumer information that is relevant to you!"

Get off my lawn

Re: Ad blocker that clicks on the ads

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post #19

I realize this won't be popular, but I really have no feelings for ad networks. - They allow shoddy security on their servers - They track users against their will - Info on me is sold w/o my knowledge or consent - Ads are a poor business model since they can be blocked - There is no moral imperative for me to view ads since I've paid to access the Interwebs I block all ads, tracking cookies, beacons, all of it... I…

Out of curiousity, if you were to go to one of your favorite sites that is currently ad supported, and the site admin presented a popup that states "We've detected you're using an ad blocker, we respectfully request not visiting our site." Would you respect the request or ignore it?

I actually have a subscription in my AdBlock Plus that also kills these "requests". It's called Adblock Warning Removal List.

Re: Ad blocker that clicks on the ads

#143
post #16

It's a shame this is even receiving front page publicity. This is ultimately terrible for everyone except maybe a few anarchists that think they deserve every websites information for free while sabotaging the publishers who work to develop the sites. And if it actually were to take off, it would then be bad for the anarchists who no longer get that free access to the information they wanted. Who wins? Edit: Seriousl…

>This is ultimately terrible for everyone except maybe a few anarchists that think they deserve every websites information for free while sabotaging the publishers who work to develop the sites.

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

Re: Ad blocker that clicks on the ads

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post #70

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Totally agree. There's something quite mean spirited about this.

Well yes, this is designed to actively disrupt (and not in the usual constructive sense) the ad-supported site model AFAICT. It'll do this by making the data useless, by getting sites thrown off ad-networks and (in less well monitored cases) by draining the coffers of the ad networks for ads never seen. I like the idea of an ad-free 'net, but it's not really up to me to dictate to site owners what they can do, which…

Ad networks are only a subset of ad-supported sites. We sell our own ads directly to clients who we think will appeal to our audience. There's no network or third party tracking/targeting people.

Re: Ad blocker that clicks on the ads

#145
post #129

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You really want to live in a world where every single site is behind a paywall? because that is what you are advocating.

I glady pay for Internet access, cable TV, the cinema, magazines, other content I view. The problem I have is with tracking. Ads should never do anything save show an ad. There should be no attempt to learn about me or track me or sell my data. Magazines I buy don't track me. I ignore ads in the cinema by whiling away that time on my mobile, I FF thru DVRd programs at home. I've paid already. I'm not viewing your dre…

Bullshit. There are hundreds of extensions that block third-party cookies and any form of tracking; what we are talking about here is hurting any content creator who wants to monetize their content without creating a paywall and therefore dealing with customers, chargebacks, credit card fraud, marketing, ads (the irony).

Re: Ad blocker that clicks on the ads

#146
post #8

Bad idea, ads are also a way to support the site/service you are using. Automatic ad clicks can get that site banned (i.e. Adsense will surely do that) so that's a sure way to kill the site. Google for instance wouldn't have existed without ads. Lots of people on HN saved millennia with help from Stackoverflow (ad supported) and so on. I'm now "ad-aware" so I know how to differentiate content from ads, but I will cli…

I often wonder what the internet would be like without ads. First of all, you're right that it would totally kill sites. Let's say it happens. What's next? I would be ecstatic if sites like BuzzFeed and Gawker died. That'd be great[1]. But it also kills good sites like Stackoverflow. That sucks. Right now people don't have to pay for content. Almost everything is ad based. Because of this people almost never pay for…

With a bit of luck peer 2 peer web technology would take of, eliminating server costs, and the server software would be build like free software is build today.

Re: Ad blocker that clicks on the ads

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post #3

This is a great way to get your favourite websites blacklisted for click-fraud.

Maybe that will motivate them to try more creative ways of generating revenue. Or they will shut down, and I will be free of my internet addiction. I believe this to be a win for myself either way, but I agree it would be a shame for the admins out there.

It's only a matter of time before advertising revenue is no longer a feasible solution. ABP/E are household names now. I like the thought of an ad-free internet where only sites that are worth paying for or those that are doing it for the love of doing it are the ones that last.

Re: Ad blocker that clicks on the ads

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post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You really want to live in a world where every single site is behind a paywall? because that is what you are advocating.

I glady pay for Internet access, cable TV, the cinema, magazines, other content I view. The problem I have is with tracking. Ads should never do anything save show an ad. There should be no attempt to learn about me or track me or sell my data. Magazines I buy don't track me. I ignore ads in the cinema by whiling away that time on my mobile, I FF thru DVRd programs at home. I've paid already. I'm not viewing your dre…

First, not all ads attempt to track you or sell your data.

Second, it sounds like you would be well served by an ad blocker. Is there some reason why that's not enough and you have to actively try to destroy ad-supported sites?

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