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Ad blocker that clicks on the ads

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Re: Ad blocker that clicks on the ads

#61
post #6

one of the main reasons why I use adblock is to avoid malware (either from sites that are malicious that I don't know about, or legitimate sites that have been compromised to display malware ads, or legit sites that use an ad provider that has been compromised to display malware ads)... so no, I do not want to click on those ads, thank you very much.

NoScript and domain blocking using the hosts file is the best I've found to stop tracking. AdBlock is such a resource hog...

Re: Ad blocker that clicks on the ads

#62
post #19

I realize this won't be popular, but I really have no feelings for ad networks. - They allow shoddy security on their servers - They track users against their will - Info on me is sold w/o my knowledge or consent - Ads are a poor business model since they can be blocked - There is no moral imperative for me to view ads since I've paid to access the Interwebs I block all ads, tracking cookies, beacons, all of it... I…

While the spirit of this extension is good, it will ultimately harm the websites you frequent and like the most. Eventually those sites will get blacklisted from their ad networks due to what will be perceived as "fake clicks" (something ad networks are very, very sensitive to in order to guard against rouge site-owners clicking their own ads or having their buddies click). This extension will click the ads every time you visit the page, which is not a normal pattern, to say the least.

Re: Ad blocker that clicks on the ads

#63
post #19

I realize this won't be popular, but I really have no feelings for ad networks. - They allow shoddy security on their servers - They track users against their will - Info on me is sold w/o my knowledge or consent - Ads are a poor business model since they can be blocked - There is no moral imperative for me to view ads since I've paid to access the Interwebs I block all ads, tracking cookies, beacons, all of it... I…

"There is no moral imperative for me to view ads since I've paid to access the Interwebs" When I go to McDonald's, I don't pay for my Big Mac. I already put gas in my car!

Not even close with the analogy. Unless the content is behind a paywall, it's "free". Want to make money? Charge access. If your content is THAT compelling, people will line up and hand you money. Using a backhanded revenue machine like ads that track me and violate my "anonymity" is beyond the pale. So, yes. If I arrive on your site and there is no paywall, I will gladly view said content without allowing ads. If there is a paywall and your CONTENT, not ads, is good, I will gladly pay. There are sites I do pay for. Willingly. Because there is nothing better. I still block ads on these sites.

Re: Ad blocker that clicks on the ads

#64
post #19

I realize this won't be popular, but I really have no feelings for ad networks. - They allow shoddy security on their servers - They track users against their will - Info on me is sold w/o my knowledge or consent - Ads are a poor business model since they can be blocked - There is no moral imperative for me to view ads since I've paid to access the Interwebs I block all ads, tracking cookies, beacons, all of it... I…

"There is no moral imperative for me to view ads since I've paid to access the Interwebs" When I go to McDonald's, I don't pay for my Big Mac. I already put gas in my car!

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Re: Ad blocker that clicks on the ads

#65
post #19

I realize this won't be popular, but I really have no feelings for ad networks. - They allow shoddy security on their servers - They track users against their will - Info on me is sold w/o my knowledge or consent - Ads are a poor business model since they can be blocked - There is no moral imperative for me to view ads since I've paid to access the Interwebs I block all ads, tracking cookies, beacons, all of it... I…

Agreed. People forget, we half-stumbled into this ad supported content idea. The only thing keeping it that way is inertia. I think we've finally started to feel the limits -- it means being tracked 24-7. Enough already. We can do better than this.

I'd be interested in a "Kickstarter for articles" sort of site. Interesting article pitches presented to an audience, those that are most useful, interesting or unique are funded and writers get paid slightly more directly for their work.

The difficulty would be determining whether to cut off certain types of content from the site, and where the line gets drawn on extreme material.

Re: Ad blocker that clicks on the ads

#66
post #58
post #19

I realize this won't be popular, but I really have no feelings for ad networks. - They allow shoddy security on their servers - They track users against their will - Info on me is sold w/o my knowledge or consent - Ads are a poor business model since they can be blocked - There is no moral imperative for me to view ads since I've paid to access the Interwebs I block all ads, tracking cookies, beacons, all of it... I…

> There is no moral imperative for me to view ads since I've paid to access the Interwebs I dislike the ad model but this is dangerously wrong: you pay your ISP for transit – unless you're subscribing to a specific site, nobody else gets a dime from you to pay for their costs. Unless subscriptions or micropayments catch on, that means that sites are either going to rely on ads or will be limited to organizations with…

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Re: Ad blocker that clicks on the ads

#67
post #58
post #19

I realize this won't be popular, but I really have no feelings for ad networks. - They allow shoddy security on their servers - They track users against their will - Info on me is sold w/o my knowledge or consent - Ads are a poor business model since they can be blocked - There is no moral imperative for me to view ads since I've paid to access the Interwebs I block all ads, tracking cookies, beacons, all of it... I…

> There is no moral imperative for me to view ads since I've paid to access the Interwebs I dislike the ad model but this is dangerously wrong: you pay your ISP for transit – unless you're subscribing to a specific site, nobody else gets a dime from you to pay for their costs. Unless subscriptions or micropayments catch on, that means that sites are either going to rely on ads or will be limited to organizations with…

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Re: Ad blocker that clicks on the ads

#68
post #8

Bad idea, ads are also a way to support the site/service you are using. Automatic ad clicks can get that site banned (i.e. Adsense will surely do that) so that's a sure way to kill the site. Google for instance wouldn't have existed without ads. Lots of people on HN saved millennia with help from Stackoverflow (ad supported) and so on. I'm now "ad-aware" so I know how to differentiate content from ads, but I will cli…

I often wonder what the internet would be like without ads. First of all, you're right that it would totally kill sites. Let's say it happens. What's next? I would be ecstatic if sites like BuzzFeed and Gawker died. That'd be great[1]. But it also kills good sites like Stackoverflow. That sucks. Right now people don't have to pay for content. Almost everything is ad based. Because of this people almost never pay for…

> I often wonder what the internet would be like without ads.

It's called the GopherSphere.

Re: Ad blocker that clicks on the ads

#69
post #12

While I agree that this can be a problem for the webpages you visit, see that the point of the extension is: " [...] to obfuscate browsing data and protect users from surveillance and tracking by advertising networks." So while it may be a negative side effect the point of the extension is not disrupting online advertisement, but disrupting online tracking. Even though you will be effectively doing both.

Can someone explain now clicking an ad link prevents tracking?

I think those devs think fhat it obfuscates data about you, data gathered about you in ad network does not match your real preferences so it is effectively useless. So it does not prevent tracking but it just cheats the system.

Don't know why they assume extension should click all links, clicking random ads would be much better strategy if you ask me, this would be less likely to be detected as it mirrors actual users behavior.

Re: Ad blocker that clicks on the ads

#70
post #14

As someone who runs an ad-supported site, I would really prefer if you just blocked my ads and did not register fake clicks on them.

Totally agree. There's something quite mean spirited about this.

Well yes, this is designed to actively disrupt (and not in the usual constructive sense) the ad-supported site model AFAICT. It'll do this by making the data useless, by getting sites thrown off ad-networks and (in less well monitored cases) by draining the coffers of the ad networks for ads never seen.

I like the idea of an ad-free 'net, but it's not really up to me to dictate to site owners what they can do, which this seems to be.

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Having read the comment parallel to mine I'd like to say I agree that there are two sides to this - it may be mean spirited to use this plugin, but it's not exactly friendly to attempt to track everyone, all the time.

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