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She Tweeted Against the Mexican Cartels. They Tweeted Her Murder

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Re: She Tweeted Against the Mexican Cartels. They Tweeted Her Murder

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Should we invest serious funds (billions) into creating a 1) legal drug which is 2) not addictive, and 3) far more superior than weed, cocaine, heroine, and all the other drugs.

Hybridized modern marijuana and Adderall are already the new drugs you propose. We can't manage to get either of them legalized for over the counter sale yet. Prohibition is still the root of the problem.

Re: She Tweeted Against the Mexican Cartels. They Tweeted Her Murder

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Why are the majority of the comments here blaming the victim? This is the death if a person who tried to stand against an overwhelming force. To try and stand against the cartels where the police didn't dare and instead of honouring her work or get death you mock her for not using tor. If you seriously think that lack of cybersecurity is the problem then at least use this to highlight the lack of good easy to use sec…

Accusing people discussing security of 'victim blaming' is both incorrect and massively unfair. Nobody discussing security endorses murder.

Is lack of cyber security 'the' problem? No, it's one problem of many for people taking on cartels. Another is lack of resources for the Mexican government. Do I think the the Mexican government not having enough resources is the cause of the issue? Obviously not.

Nobody is saying those things are the cause of the issue, and you're probably smart enough to know that - instead, you've gone on to attack people for attention instead. Flagged.

Re: She Tweeted Against the Mexican Cartels. They Tweeted Her Murder

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Just within Mexico? Without changing anything in the US? Not sure. It might not have any effect at all, or it might reduce violence because it diminishes the clashes of the cartels with the Mexican authorities. But, as far as I understand it, the vast majority of the income of the cartels comes from trafficking drugs from Mexico and south america into the U.S. market. So, as long as drugs are both illegal and widely…

Thank you for sharing your thoughts, very insightful! What does it take for the Mexican government to prohibit the oil export? It does seem that Mexico is some sort of energy/resource-extraction site for the US and for that drug cartels are looked upon as collateral damage. Can it learn from Brazil which doesn't export oil as much? Or is it the case of pseudo democratic government held hostage by a handful of multina…

How would preventing oil export harm the cartels?

Re: She Tweeted Against the Mexican Cartels. They Tweeted Her Murder

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Yes, it literally would have since they found out who she was by looking through her phone after kidnapping her for an unrelated death of a cartel member. Try and read the article before you comment.

So in your theory, bloodthirsty murdering cartels are going to kidnap people, but let them go if they hit the panic encryption button on their phones or happen to be using a secret password. This is an interesting view of how drug cartels work. Personally, I don't know what the penalty for "contempt of drug cartel that just kidnapped you" is, but it seems unlikely to lead to a positive outcome.

They would have attached the doctor for the the four year old child dying (because they're bloodthirty morons) but no they would probably not have discovered the doctors alter ago. Just read the article.

Re: She Tweeted Against the Mexican Cartels. They Tweeted Her Murder

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Why are the majority of the comments here blaming the victim? This is the death if a person who tried to stand against an overwhelming force. To try and stand against the cartels where the police didn't dare and instead of honouring her work or get death you mock her for not using tor. If you seriously think that lack of cybersecurity is the problem then at least use this to highlight the lack of good easy to use sec…

This is not about cybersecurity or encryption. This is about a country that has been poisoned by the brutality of drug cartels for decades. While ISIS terrorizes Iraq and Syria. Living in fear has become the norm for Mexico. But cartels cannot be bombed by drones and Mexico cannot be occupied by foreign forces. There are only two choices for those living in Mexico: either flee to the U.S. or accept living in a countr…

Writing 'this is not about about security' does not make this not about security (amongst other topics)

Re: She Tweeted Against the Mexican Cartels. They Tweeted Her Murder

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If you're going to whistleblow on your local government online (be that a legitimate government, or a violent drug cartel), the only reasonably safe way to do it is from outside the country AND using Tor. It amazes me that people don't take these basic precautions. Mexican cartels are known to have infiltrated ISPs, where they were able to tie IP addresses to identities. Using encryption is the only way. EDIT: may I…

I'm downvoting you because you're sitting in your safe, comfortable chair and smugly mocking a woman who knowingly risked death for the good of her people, because she didn't take the "basic precaution" of leaving the country she was trying to protect first.

Re: She Tweeted Against the Mexican Cartels. They Tweeted Her Murder

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I'm not sure how you're going to get out real journalism about the events going on within your city from another country... Did you read the article?

I did, and it clearly says that other citizens were sending her information to post online. I don't know much about her situation, but presumably that wouldn't require her to be in the country. And even if that's not the case, using Tor and not linking your online vigilante identity to your real identity (e.g. by having your whistleblower twitter account linked to your personal phone) is a very basic precaution. I RE…

> I REALLY don't want to sound insensitive

Then try to use less insensitive language. "It amazes me that people don't take these basic precautions" sounds an awful lot like "Look at this poor misguided savage, killed because she was too stupid to know what an Onion Router is." Maybe try something like "We need to educate whistleblowers about security technology to avoid tragedies like this."

Re: She Tweeted Against the Mexican Cartels. They Tweeted Her Murder

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Why are the majority of the comments here blaming the victim? This is the death if a person who tried to stand against an overwhelming force. To try and stand against the cartels where the police didn't dare and instead of honouring her work or get death you mock her for not using tor. If you seriously think that lack of cybersecurity is the problem then at least use this to highlight the lack of good easy to use sec…

In the epilogue one of his books (maybe "the drowned and the saved"?), Auschwitz survivor Primo Levi describes giving a talk to a group of schoolchildren. One boy asked him to describe the layout of the camp, and then described how he would have escaped if he had been in Auschwitz. Nothing Primo Levi could say would convince the boy that escape was impossible. Now I'm not saying that it was impossible for this citize…

Which book?

Re: She Tweeted Against the Mexican Cartels. They Tweeted Her Murder

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post #127

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...because that's how addictive drugs work? Drug addicts make rational choices and have lots of money to spend on planning international trips?

They had a choice the first time, at least, even if you claim it took that away after. It seems odd to blame one group of people for 3rd degree consequences when ignoring the rest. That seems to be an unpopular statement, but it's still true.

It's like asking people to stop voting for the least-awful of the two candidates showcased on the teevee. Yes, they should just stop for their own good and for the public good, but it's not going to happen.

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Why can't mexico be occupied by foreign forces? Because there isn't natural resources for the liberators to pay themselves with?

We have quite an amount of oil. But that oil will continue to be sold to the U.S. (and others) regardless of what happens with the cartels or to the people of Mexico (Short of a revolution, I suppose). In fact, in recent years, reforms have been passed to make it easier for foreign companies to get involved in oil extraction in Mexico. Given that, there is very little incentive to send an occupation force in order to…

The amount of oil reserves in Mexico is not that great as it used to be, PEMEX production continues to decrease every year.

PEMEX became the classic example of am inefficient, corrupt and bureaucratic government company which has already extracted all the "easy" oil and sees that this is unsustainable on long term, many of the large remaining oil reserves is now not easy to extract which due to bad management and lack of long term thinking is economically not convenient for PEMEX to try to extract it on its own.

So the government pushed those reforms to allow foreign companies with more advanced technical know-how and more willingness to risk, to invest and at least get some money in terms of taxes and permits.

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