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Re: Should people be eating more fat?

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Post by huehue »

pajaroide wrote: post #15

Lately I've been on a diet of vegetable fats and proteins, almost no carbs (only fiber). Lots of avocados and seeds (chia, flaxseed, sunflower, sesame) which have approximately 50% fat content 45% protein 5% fiber. I lost body fat while eating as much as I wanted of that, along with yoghurt, eggs, cheese and veggies, the only thing off the table is bread, although I eat some once in a while. People eat too many carbs…

"People eat too many carbs in their daily life and don't even notice and they carry lots of long term health risks."

Stop spreading this. There are people eating +400g of carbs a day while being exceptionally healthy.

Re: Should people be eating more fat?

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Post by tormeh »

jp555 wrote: post #30
pajaroide wrote: post #15

Lately I've been on a diet of vegetable fats and proteins, almost no carbs (only fiber). Lots of avocados and seeds (chia, flaxseed, sunflower, sesame) which have approximately 50% fat content 45% protein 5% fiber. I lost body fat while eating as much as I wanted of that, along with yoghurt, eggs, cheese and veggies, the only thing off the table is bread, although I eat some once in a while. People eat too many carbs…

The macronutrient content of your diet has nothing to do with how much you gain/lose. The only way you are losing weight is that you are in a caloric deficit. Whether that's from increased activity, decreased energy intake, or a combination of these, there is no other way (besides liposuction). The low-carb thing is just a trick to get you to eat fewer calories. Not to say it's not valuable - whatever works for you -…

The thing with carbs is that they don't really satiate you as much as fat and protein does. You'll stabilize on a much lower weight if you (partially) remove bread, pasta, rice etc. from your diet. It requires so much less willpower to lose weight without them.

Re: Should people be eating more fat?

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Post by dmm »

jp555 wrote: post #30
pajaroide wrote: post #15

Lately I've been on a diet of vegetable fats and proteins, almost no carbs (only fiber). Lots of avocados and seeds (chia, flaxseed, sunflower, sesame) which have approximately 50% fat content 45% protein 5% fiber. I lost body fat while eating as much as I wanted of that, along with yoghurt, eggs, cheese and veggies, the only thing off the table is bread, although I eat some once in a while. People eat too many carbs…

The macronutrient content of your diet has nothing to do with how much you gain/lose. The only way you are losing weight is that you are in a caloric deficit. Whether that's from increased activity, decreased energy intake, or a combination of these, there is no other way (besides liposuction). The low-carb thing is just a trick to get you to eat fewer calories. Not to say it's not valuable - whatever works for you -…

What if the macronutrient content of your diet affects your metabolic rate? I mean I see the value of the "bucket with a hole in it" model of human weightloss but the body is a complex biological machine full of feedback mechanisms so maybe that model isn't always sufficient.

Re: Should people be eating more fat?

#34

Post by Keats »

pajaroide wrote: post #15

Lately I've been on a diet of vegetable fats and proteins, almost no carbs (only fiber). Lots of avocados and seeds (chia, flaxseed, sunflower, sesame) which have approximately 50% fat content 45% protein 5% fiber. I lost body fat while eating as much as I wanted of that, along with yoghurt, eggs, cheese and veggies, the only thing off the table is bread, although I eat some once in a while. People eat too many carbs…

You will need to provide source for the "People eat too many carbs in their daily life and don't even notice and they carry lots of long term health risks".

And preferentially one that also compares with asian diets since they have with lots of carbs.

Re: Should people be eating more fat?

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Post by ugexe »

jp555 wrote: post #30
pajaroide wrote: post #15

Lately I've been on a diet of vegetable fats and proteins, almost no carbs (only fiber). Lots of avocados and seeds (chia, flaxseed, sunflower, sesame) which have approximately 50% fat content 45% protein 5% fiber. I lost body fat while eating as much as I wanted of that, along with yoghurt, eggs, cheese and veggies, the only thing off the table is bread, although I eat some once in a while. People eat too many carbs…

The macronutrient content of your diet has nothing to do with how much you gain/lose. The only way you are losing weight is that you are in a caloric deficit. Whether that's from increased activity, decreased energy intake, or a combination of these, there is no other way (besides liposuction). The low-carb thing is just a trick to get you to eat fewer calories. Not to say it's not valuable - whatever works for you -…

High fat/moderate protein/low carb (so not exactly the 50/45/5 ratio of the post you replied to) can affect insulin resistance. Are you implying that insulin resistance has no affect on weight gain/loss?

Re: Should people be eating more fat?

#36

Post by jobu »

calebm wrote: post #11

I read that several years ago, some farmers figured they could fatten up their cattle by feeding them more fat, so they fed them a bunch of coconut oil. But instead of getting fat, they lost weight.

The article is here: http://www.naturalhealthstrategies.com/coconut-oil-and-weigh... Unfortunately there isn't any actual science cited there, so it may simply be a good story.

There is some evidence that medium chain triglycerides (MCTs) are good for humans, and coconut oil is typically about 2/3 MCT. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium-chain_triglyceride)

Re: Should people be eating more fat?

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Post by huehue »

tormeh wrote: post #32
jp555 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The macronutrient content of your diet has nothing to do with how much you gain/lose. The only way you are losing weight is that you are in a caloric deficit. Whether that's from increased activity, decreased energy intake, or a combination of these, there is no other way (besides liposuction). The low-carb thing is just a trick to get you to eat fewer calories. Not to say it's not valuable - whatever works for you -…

The thing with carbs is that they don't really satiate you as much as fat and protein does. You'll stabilize on a much lower weight if you (partially) remove bread, pasta, rice etc. from your diet. It requires so much less willpower to lose weight without them.

But carbs are also less fattening than fat (on active individuals who constantly deplete glycogen stores, if you sit at work all day chances are you won't need many) when overfeeding.

Re: Should people be eating more fat?

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Post by ericb »

dpeck wrote: post #23

fyi, if you're interested in losing weight using this approach the /r/keto subreddit is quite good and very encouraging. I won't say its for everyone, but it certainly worked for me, and after getting over the initial hump I felt better than I ever had. Huge amounts of energy, feeling great after 4 hours of sleep, brain feeling like I was grasping concepts and finding solutions quicker.

I've lost 20 pounds following that approach without being hungry.

I noticed /r/keto was FILLED with success pics--and I mean 150 lbs. lost type success pics. And the difference, compared to other diet subreddits was that the success pic posts did not say "...and I had bariatric surgery" which is amazing to me.

Re: Should people be eating more fat?

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Post by _broody »

Keats wrote: post #34
pajaroide wrote: post #15

Lately I've been on a diet of vegetable fats and proteins, almost no carbs (only fiber). Lots of avocados and seeds (chia, flaxseed, sunflower, sesame) which have approximately 50% fat content 45% protein 5% fiber. I lost body fat while eating as much as I wanted of that, along with yoghurt, eggs, cheese and veggies, the only thing off the table is bread, although I eat some once in a while. People eat too many carbs…

You will need to provide source for the "People eat too many carbs in their daily life and don't even notice and they carry lots of long term health risks". And preferentially one that also compares with asian diets since they have with lots of carbs.

Asians have a very high carb tolerance from having lived with a high-carb diet for thousands of years. Comparing your diet to an asian's is definitely not a good way to determine whether it will be healthy for you.
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