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Should people be eating more fat?

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Re: Should people be eating more fat?

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I lost over 50 pounds about 3 years ago now. And since then I have been relearning to eat and doing a good job at it. One of the tricks of the eating healthy trade that I learned and has helped me tremendously, is to put fatty stuff into drinks; mostly teas and coffees. Like bulletproof coffee[0]. Often you hear don't drink empty calories, but as someone that has never counted a calorie I can attest that it is more i…

What was your experience and opinion of Four Hour Body? I've heard recommendations for it, but its marketing speak of "AN UNCOMMON GUIDE TO RAPID FAT-LOSS, INCREDIBLE SEX, AND BECOMING SUPERHUMAN" has always turned me off to it before I started.

I did 5 weeks on 4HB (only 5 weeks due to my schedule, it's not easy when you have all 3 meals a day out of the house...), and felt fantastic. Circulation in my legs seemed to improve, more energy and lost about a stone in that time.

Re: Should people be eating more fat?

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One other recent study that jumped out at me was one on salt: apparently new studies are showing that CDC guidelines on sodium intake are far too low(1) and should be increased for health. I wonder if much of the problem with the seemingly contradictory nature of studies like this the wide variance you see with us humans. I know good experimental design is about controlling for these variables, but it seems to be ext…

here's another great one from Alan Aragon: "Avoid food avoidance."

I think the salt thing is somewhat a problem of causation vs. correlation. If you have hypertension it can be a good idea to limit salt intake; but salt intake does not cause hypertension.

I'm wary of any health advice that stems solely from epidemiological study. I'm not sure why we so easily take a hypothesis as a conclusion, and epidemiological study, while valuable, can only produce a hypothesis that requires a controlled experiment to test. Yet it seems 90% of the "red meat causes diabetes!" articles we see are usually framing a hypothesis as the result of an experiment.

Re: Should people be eating more fat?

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I read that several years ago, some farmers figured they could fatten up their cattle by feeding them more fat, so they fed them a bunch of coconut oil. But instead of getting fat, they lost weight.

best way to fatten livestock is to feed them carbs (ie corn!)

grass fed cows grow much much leaner than those on corn

Re: Should people be eating more fat?

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Lately I've been on a diet of vegetable fats and proteins, almost no carbs (only fiber). Lots of avocados and seeds (chia, flaxseed, sunflower, sesame) which have approximately 50% fat content 45% protein 5% fiber. I lost body fat while eating as much as I wanted of that, along with yoghurt, eggs, cheese and veggies, the only thing off the table is bread, although I eat some once in a while.

People eat too many carbs in their daily life and don't even notice and they carry lots of long term health risks.

Re: Should people be eating more fat?

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I read that several years ago, some farmers figured they could fatten up their cattle by feeding them more fat, so they fed them a bunch of coconut oil. But instead of getting fat, they lost weight.

Farmers do use polyunsaturated fats for fattening purposes.

Re: Should people be eating more fat?

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I lost over 50 pounds about 3 years ago now. And since then I have been relearning to eat and doing a good job at it. One of the tricks of the eating healthy trade that I learned and has helped me tremendously, is to put fatty stuff into drinks; mostly teas and coffees. Like bulletproof coffee[0]. Often you hear don't drink empty calories, but as someone that has never counted a calorie I can attest that it is more i…

What was your experience and opinion of Four Hour Body? I've heard recommendations for it, but its marketing speak of "AN UNCOMMON GUIDE TO RAPID FAT-LOSS, INCREDIBLE SEX, AND BECOMING SUPERHUMAN" has always turned me off to it before I started.

His book is basically a glorified repost of exercise science and nutrition research, and not all of it is true. Like anything else, it works just fine but obviously fails to meet the hype.

Re: Should people be eating more fat?

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I lost over 50 pounds about 3 years ago now. And since then I have been relearning to eat and doing a good job at it. One of the tricks of the eating healthy trade that I learned and has helped me tremendously, is to put fatty stuff into drinks; mostly teas and coffees. Like bulletproof coffee[0]. Often you hear don't drink empty calories, but as someone that has never counted a calorie I can attest that it is more i…

What was your experience and opinion of Four Hour Body? I've heard recommendations for it, but its marketing speak of "AN UNCOMMON GUIDE TO RAPID FAT-LOSS, INCREDIBLE SEX, AND BECOMING SUPERHUMAN" has always turned me off to it before I started.

I approached with the attitude if this random dude says I can lose 20 pounds in one month (more weight than I could conceive losing) I was going to do exactly what he said to see if he was right. And I loved it. Anyone I suggested the book to has told me it changed their lives. For me, I went from eating 2 super sized fast food meals a day to lean and local and I think the 4 hour body really helped to re-introduce me to eating correctly more than anything.

Don't let the marketing ruin the book for you. It's a great book, everyone exaggerates a little.

Re: Should people be eating more fat?

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I lost over 50 pounds about 3 years ago now. And since then I have been relearning to eat and doing a good job at it. One of the tricks of the eating healthy trade that I learned and has helped me tremendously, is to put fatty stuff into drinks; mostly teas and coffees. Like bulletproof coffee[0]. Often you hear don't drink empty calories, but as someone that has never counted a calorie I can attest that it is more i…

The whole point about adding fat is to make you full with less.

So if you drink milk or eat yogurt don't go for fat free go for the full monty that way you will be fuller.

I lost 60 pounds over the last 6 months and mostly by running, swimming and staying away from bread/pasta/rice without being religious about it.

Re: Should people be eating more fat?

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I read that several years ago, some farmers figured they could fatten up their cattle by feeding them more fat, so they fed them a bunch of coconut oil. But instead of getting fat, they lost weight.

If you had said "pigs" instead of "cattle" it might have been relevant, but cattle are herbivores with 4 stomachs who send their food through the system several times (aka chewing their cud). Similarity to humans is pretty low.
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