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Safari is sending every search query to Apple

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Re: Safari is sending every search query to Apple

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Google and Microsoft do this too when you enable real-time searching via the address bar, but both are pretty good at letting you know it happens. Doesn't Safari have some kind of first-run experience where the user gets some notice on this?

Google and Microsoft also run search engines.

Re: Safari is sending every search query to Apple

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Simple workaround: don't use safari. Long term solution: don't by Apple products. Or at least don't run their software.

Not quite sure why you got down voted. I bought an iPod nano several years ago, because I quite liked the hardware/software that Apple made. However when I found out that they intentionally broke compatibility with 3rd party music software that isn't iTunes, I made the decision to never buy Apple products again.

I don't feel that I'm particularly missing out by making this decision (although I am aware that many other vendors probably have similar ethical problems associated with them).

Re: Safari is sending every search query to Apple

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Simple workaround: don't use safari. Long term solution: don't by Apple products. Or at least don't run their software.

Who's products would you suggest as an alternative?

For browsing, Mozilla is probably the least likely to want to do this sort of logging. There are probably more niche browsers that focus on privacy that I'm unaware of too.

As for other Apple products, you can run Linux on a MacBook quite happily (Linus does, after all) and there are some nice Android ROMs which focus on freedom, such as Replicant.

Re: Safari is sending every search query to Apple

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post #13
post #3

Google and Microsoft do this too when you enable real-time searching via the address bar, but both are pretty good at letting you know it happens. Doesn't Safari have some kind of first-run experience where the user gets some notice on this?

Google and Microsoft also run search engines.

Perhaps Apple internally already consider themselves a search engine. This might only be a temporary misalignment of user experience and data being sent to Apple.

Re: Safari is sending every search query to Apple

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Who's products would you suggest as an alternative?

For browsing, Mozilla is probably the least likely to want to do this sort of logging. There are probably more niche browsers that focus on privacy that I'm unaware of too. As for other Apple products, you can run Linux on a MacBook quite happily (Linus does, after all) and there are some nice Android ROMs which focus on freedom, such as Replicant.

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Mozilla's "Safe browsing", for instance.

If you're going to go with something FF based, at least choose something with such things disabled by default. For instance, I run PM.

Re: Safari is sending every search query to Apple

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I wonder if the same behavior is present for the browser in iOS 8. If they have done this on the desktop, it seems plausible they would also have done the same on their mobile platform.

I upgraded to ios8 and the two most buggy, crashy apps are iMessage, and Safari, which have rendered my daily use of the device nearly useless. I gave the hardest time copy/pasting URLs from mobile safari into iMessage, it often pastes in something from days ago instead, no matter how many times I re-copy things I'm other apps.

I want my device to 'just work' like it did when I bought it, updates shouldn't feel like downgrades

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