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OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by jsz0 »

Osmium wrote: post #190

Somebody asked in another thread about Yosemite's new Hypervisor: "Hypervisor (Hypervisor.framework). The Hypervisor framework allows virtualization vendors to build virtualization solutions on top of OS X without needing to deploy third-party kernel extensions (KEXTs). Included is a lightweight hypervisor that enables virtualization of the host CPUs." Any news on if anyone is actually using this yet? Stability matte…

Not many details on this yet but there shouldn't be any major drawbacks since third party kexts can still be used to support legacy / multi-platform VMs or supplement Hypervisor.kext in other ways. I doubt Apple would have bothered doing this unless they had a mountain of OSX crash logs / power consumption data that suggested they could do better. It's clearly in their best interest to sell stable computers that get great battery life so I expect they will do a good job here. Users don't switch between VM platforms often enough to know which one offers the best stability / power efficiency so there's less of an incentive for companies like VMWare or Parallels to make them a top priority.

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Post by r00fus »

r00fus wrote: post #104
geekam wrote: post #91

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It helped a little but still crashes for me. I have the same issues with VMWare latest version.

Does suspending the VM help you?

Sorry to reply to my own message, but I just found this [1] where the recommendation is:

"I managed to fix this by going to the Virtual Machine Settings, clicking Advanced, and then checking the "Pass power status to VM" checkbox."

Haven't tested extensively, but I haven't had a crash in the past day.

[1] https://communities.vmware.com/thread/467919

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Post by geekam »

r00fus wrote: post #223
r00fus wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does suspending the VM help you?

Sorry to reply to my own message, but I just found this [1] where the recommendation is: "I managed to fix this by going to the Virtual Machine Settings, clicking Advanced, and then checking the "Pass power status to VM" checkbox." Haven't tested extensively, but I haven't had a crash in the past day. [1] https://communities.vmware.com/thread/467919

Thanks! I will try this and let you know.

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Post by Cowicide »

teamhappy wrote: post #37
rob wrote: post #27

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This is so common on the early 2011 MBP (I have one too, and experienced it - Apple replaced my logic board with their $300 flat-fee repair depot option) people have made a website for it: http://www.mbp2011.com/ http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/05/13/apple-remains-mum-...

Lawyers Researching Possible Class Action Lawsuit Over 2011 MacBook Pro Graphics Issues http://www.macrumors.com/2014/08/21/lawsuit-2011-macbook-pro...

I'm saddened that Apple has forced the hand of their customers to push for this lawsuit.

Apple should have issued a recall and replacement program for this early 2011 MacBook Pro GPU defect a long while ago and now it's come to this.

I don't think Steve Jobs would call the impending lawsuit bad luck, he'd call it bad karma.

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Post by roryokane »

dandruffhead wrote: post #203
zwily wrote: post #31

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Heh, me too - you can turn it back on in System Preferences though. It's a new sound effect.

Do you know exactly where? I couldn't find it.

I don’t have Yosemite, but in Mavericks, you can change it in System Preferences > Sound > Sound Effects, by checking the checkbox “Play feedback when volume is changed”.

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Post by pfranz »

song wrote: post #46
smutticus wrote: post #6

None of these reiews answer the one question I always want answered; will this cause my MBP to crash more often than 10.8.5? I have all the features I need, I want fewer GPU panics. I know these reviewers cannot answer this question, I just want to point out that it's the only relevant question for me. Given Apple's track record, this release will most likely cause my MBP to crash more often, but I want data on that.…

Yes, I've never had OS X crash as often as Mavericks. And some of the crashes are completely repeatable. For example, open a lot of windows (20 terminal windows, 5-6 projects in Sublime, a bunch of browser windows used to test apps), turn on mission control and it just crashes every single time. I haven't done more test to figure the exact number of windows until it crashes but I know that it does for my workflow. Ad…

Have you tested your RAM? I had a similar situation where I had upgraded my memory and everything worked fine until I went to play Quake3. Also running Linux was miserable while Windows seemed to work ok. I finally figured out it was a bad stick of RAM and it save a lot of frustration.

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Post by pfranz »

masklinn wrote: post #195
gcao wrote: post #29

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Mine crashes a lot. Usually after I send it to sleep when I go home. Next time when I wake it up, it starts up from crashed state. It might have something to do with some app I installed but I didn't spend time to figure that out yet.

I've had this problem with Mavericks on a 2010 MBP. I "fixed" it by switching the hibernation mode sleep (hibernatemode 0), suspend-to-disk and suspend-to-ram would kernel panic every time.

I already mentioned it elsewhere, but I wonder if both parent and gp have a case of bad RAM.

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Post by pfranz »

cmelbye wrote: post #215
magicalist wrote: post #128

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http://support.apple.com/kb/HT200553

So a kernel panic. Do people seriously see those often? I could count on one hand the number of times Mavericks panicked.

Usually, when I've seen a kernel panic in the past 5-10 years it's due to poor third-party hardware or drivers. I know someone who has an external sound mixer and plugging/unplugging the USB gives a 50/50 chance of a kernel panic.

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Post by junkblocker »

mattgreenrocks wrote: post #212
bitL wrote: post #52

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I started experiencing GPU panics on rMBP in the past week as well, I guess NVidia or related circuits have some issues. I switched it off using gfxcardstatus and now it's stable running on Intel HD only. Try to do the same - if it stops crashing, your discrete GPU might be damaged.

Me too. I suspect Chrome to be involved, if only because they had this problem back in 2012 as well, around the time the rMBP came out.

I noticed Chrome crashing whenever I was in the Chrome store too many time. The 'graphics error happened' message after the crash was another clue. So I turned off native graphics acceleration in Chrome's setting and it's not crashed since then.
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