I know two people who "become women" to get better treatment at university. Dance around it as you wish, but today women has 60% higher chance to graduate compared to men.
When Women Become Men at Wellesley
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#12I know two people who "become women" to get better treatment at university. Dance around it as you wish, but today women has 60% higher chance to graduate compared to men.
Did it work? Just because somebody becomes trans doesn't mean they actually get comparable social treatment to a cis woman in practice.
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#13> Of all the people at a multiethnic women’s college who could hold the school’s “diversity” seat, the least fitting one was a white man. > “I thought he’d do a perfectly fine job, but it just felt inappropriate to have a white man there. It’s not just about that position either. Having men in elected leadership positions undermines the idea of this being a place where women are the leaders.” I find this concept both…
“I thought Obama would do a perfectly fine job, but it just felt inappropriate to have a black man as President of the United States.”
Such a person would be pilloried as a racist.
It's astonishing how often people imply or explicitly assert that white men don't understand what it's like to live in a society hostile to their race and sex. A cursory glance at, say, the New York Times shows that such hostility is in fact pervasive—even, bizarrely, among white men themselves.
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
You know two men who became trans for better treatment? Considering the issues trans people face you are full of shit. Interesting how accounts trying to claim that 'women have it so much better' are always green accounts. If you believe in your comment why not use your actual handle? Why do you think women have a better chance? What can you do to help men?
Take typical nerd, add mild depression and zero social life. I can ensure you that being trans will not make it much worse and will improve relations with authorities significantly. And in their cases it was 'administrative decision'. I argued a few times in person, results were unpleasant for my person, I am not going to do it again. 65% graduates are women, men do not even have universal voting right in US. Google…
What do you mean men don't have universal voting rights? Are you talking about felons?
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Take typical nerd, add mild depression and zero social life. I can ensure you that being trans will not make it much worse and will improve relations with authorities significantly. And in their cases it was 'administrative decision'. I argued a few times in person, results were unpleasant for my person, I am not going to do it again. 65% graduates are women, men do not even have universal voting right in US. Google…
Why do you think more women graduate? Why complain that women have it better than actively trying to make it better for men? I'm trying to figure out why you have such a skewed view of society. You're certainly incorrect about how trans people are treated, especially with authorities. What do you mean men don't have universal voting rights? Are you talking about felons?
I am saying that in most states being over 18, with clean record and mentally capable, does not automatically mean someone can vote (as women can).
EDIT: there were questions about voting right. I can no longer answer since I was down-voted to oblivion. And because I am obviously "full of shit" I will not add links, just three hints:
- Men has to register at two places, instead of just one.
- Voting for men is a reward, not a right
- I am more worried about student loans, not voting.
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#16I'm concerned with how this spills out in the tech industry and our current focus on gender. All of the gender equity campaigns at the moment are inclusive of women, the more liberal include trans women, but none of them appear to have any explicit inclusion of trans men or non binary gender people. Which I find curious since trans masculine people often share the same structural issues with cis women being: lack of access to STEM pre-education in gradeschool/highschool, reproductive realities which are disruptive to a tech career, lack of socialization as boys/access to old boys' network. Trans people, including trans masculine people, do not occur in large enough numbers to have multiple tech industry gender advocacy groups and the best they can do is hope that "women's" groups eventually advocate for them.
I know of zero trans men in leadership positions in tech (eg, visible senior/staff engineers at the large companies, or actual management (PM doesn't count)), but I do know of quite a few trans women in these sorts of positions and even more cis women. Of course, the trans men in leadership could all be stealth, as I am (but I'm just a cog in the machine). I've worked in tech long enough, and have heard the stories of cis men when they think they are talking to another cis man, to know that the people tech are still deeply transphobic and we have such a long way to go.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why do you think more women graduate? Why complain that women have it better than actively trying to make it better for men? I'm trying to figure out why you have such a skewed view of society. You're certainly incorrect about how trans people are treated, especially with authorities. What do you mean men don't have universal voting rights? Are you talking about felons?
Have a look at stats and laws. It is the senate and judges who has this view of society. I am not complaining about women having it better (good for them), I am just complaining men have it worse. I am saying that in most states being over 18, with clean record and mentally capable, does not automatically mean someone can vote (as women can). EDIT: there were questions about voting right. I can no longer answer since…
What are the situations in which men cannot vote if they are over 18, with a clean record and mentally capable?
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
You know two men who became trans for better treatment? Considering the issues trans people face you are full of shit. Interesting how accounts trying to claim that 'women have it so much better' are always green accounts. If you believe in your comment why not use your actual handle? Why do you think women have a better chance? What can you do to help men?
Take typical nerd, add mild depression and zero social life. I can ensure you that being trans will not make it much worse and will improve relations with authorities significantly. And in their cases it was 'administrative decision'. I argued a few times in person, results were unpleasant for my person, I am not going to do it again. 65% graduates are women, men do not even have universal voting right in US. Google…
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#19> Of all the people at a multiethnic women’s college who could hold the school’s “diversity” seat, the least fitting one was a white man. > “I thought he’d do a perfectly fine job, but it just felt inappropriate to have a white man there. It’s not just about that position either. Having men in elected leadership positions undermines the idea of this being a place where women are the leaders.” I find this concept both…
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Take typical nerd, add mild depression and zero social life. I can ensure you that being trans will not make it much worse and will improve relations with authorities significantly. And in their cases it was 'administrative decision'. I argued a few times in person, results were unpleasant for my person, I am not going to do it again. 65% graduates are women, men do not even have universal voting right in US. Google…
So, you are saying that women have more voting rights than men? Where are you getting that from?