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OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by zwily »

cvalentin wrote: post #30
sxates wrote: post #2

What's missing here for me is some kind of performance evaluation. If I upgrade my 2011 MBA from Mavericks to Yosemite, should I expect any change in performance, for better or worse? Did the power management change in any significant way? Apple's mobile OSs have a way of obsoleting older hardware. I'm curious to know if their desktop OSs are trending that way as well, or if they're making performance gains instead.

In using the beta, I haven't noticed any actual performance/battery difference between the two. Honestly, when I first installed it the first thing I noticed was the lack of sound when changing the volume.

Heh, me too - you can turn it back on in System Preferences though. It's a new sound effect.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by cherry_su »

cvalentin wrote: post #30
sxates wrote: post #2

What's missing here for me is some kind of performance evaluation. If I upgrade my 2011 MBA from Mavericks to Yosemite, should I expect any change in performance, for better or worse? Did the power management change in any significant way? Apple's mobile OSs have a way of obsoleting older hardware. I'm curious to know if their desktop OSs are trending that way as well, or if they're making performance gains instead.

In using the beta, I haven't noticed any actual performance/battery difference between the two. Honestly, when I first installed it the first thing I noticed was the lack of sound when changing the volume.

It's still there, but now you hold shift+vol up/down to hear the feedback. This is in contrast to earlier OS X versions, where holding down shift will mute the audio feedback.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by jackmoore »

vacri wrote: post #28

I can't wait for the 'flat' fad to be over.

Even though it feels very fad-ish because it's been used as a buzzword/bandwagon, I don't feel like it's actually a fad.

My view is that that digital design has matured to the point where designers no longer feel they have to wow users with lots of effects and visual flourishes, allowing for a more purpose driven design. My hope/opinion is that is here to stay.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by Heliosmaster »

gcao wrote: post #29
pbreit wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doubt you're going to see much about crashing since I presume that most MBP owners, like myself, never experience crashes.

Mine crashes a lot. Usually after I send it to sleep when I go home. Next time when I wake it up, it starts up from crashed state. It might have something to do with some app I installed but I didn't spend time to figure that out yet.

You're not alone in this exact behavior.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by teamhappy »

smutticus wrote: post #6

None of these reiews answer the one question I always want answered; will this cause my MBP to crash more often than 10.8.5? I have all the features I need, I want fewer GPU panics. I know these reviewers cannot answer this question, I just want to point out that it's the only relevant question for me. Given Apple's track record, this release will most likely cause my MBP to crash more often, but I want data on that.…

Anybody know where to find release dates for driver updates and things like that?

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by teamhappy »

rob wrote: post #27
kissickas wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have this issue (MBP early 2011). Is it risky to upgrade to Yosemite? When starting up cold, I sometimes have to force-shutdown the computer 30+ times before it will get past the Apple logo screen without going grey or black. I'm not sure if such a major software update is a good idea given the circumstances.

This is so common on the early 2011 MBP (I have one too, and experienced it - Apple replaced my logic board with their $300 flat-fee repair depot option) people have made a website for it: http://www.mbp2011.com/ http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/05/13/apple-remains-mum-...

Lawyers Researching Possible Class Action Lawsuit Over 2011 MacBook Pro Graphics Issues

http://www.macrumors.com/2014/08/21/lawsuit-2011-macbook-pro...

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by BSousa »

smutticus wrote: post #6

None of these reiews answer the one question I always want answered; will this cause my MBP to crash more often than 10.8.5? I have all the features I need, I want fewer GPU panics. I know these reviewers cannot answer this question, I just want to point out that it's the only relevant question for me. Given Apple's track record, this release will most likely cause my MBP to crash more often, but I want data on that.…

MBP retina 1st generation. Latest GM is better than 10.9 (don't really remember 10.8 crashes though) regarding crashes. Initial betas were bad (2-3 reboots a day) now latest GM seed seems quite stable. Haven't rebooted in days (except to update the OS)

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by ericd »

kissickas wrote: post #18
zomgbbq wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was experiencing the GPU panics as well and it turned out to be a hardware issue. Did it only happen when you were using the NVidia GPU and not when using the on-board?

I have this issue (MBP early 2011). Is it risky to upgrade to Yosemite? When starting up cold, I sometimes have to force-shutdown the computer 30+ times before it will get past the Apple logo screen without going grey or black. I'm not sure if such a major software update is a good idea given the circumstances.

Had this happen shortly after AppleCare lapsed, went with the $300 depot repair to swap out the motherboard. Sucks, but it fixed it (the GPU was dying in my case, I believe).
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